From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jan 17 23:38: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2832E14CAF for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:38:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA67219; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:38:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA15330; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:38:21 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200001180738.AAA15330@harmony.village.org> Subject: Re: 4.0 Code freeze? Cc: "Frank (sysadmin)" , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:39:43 MST." <200001180539.WAA14475@harmony.village.org> References: <200001180539.WAA14475@harmony.village.org> <20000117084445.A11343@student.rug.ac.be> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:38:21 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200001180539.WAA14475@harmony.village.org> Warner Losh writes: : In message <20000117084445.A11343@student.rug.ac.be> "Frank (sysadmin)" writes: : : So maybe this is the moment to make sure we won't need a separate PAO for 4.0? : : That moment was six months ago. No one seemed concerned about it : then. I just reread this and it sounds overly harsh. Please forgive me, but I've been ill today. It would have been better stated that right after the feature freeze for 4.0 isn't the time to start working on a PAO merge. It is too late in the ballgame. 6 or even 3 months ago when there was time to do this at our leasure was the right time to do this. That would have been enough time to get things ironed out. Also, the move to a new pccard system isn't helping things and is likely creating some confusion. It is thought that what is in -current (soon to be 4.0R) is a stopgap until this can be finished and the stuff firmed up. That's why there won't likely be a 4.0 PAO release, although the nomads have final say on what they do with their time and resources. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message