From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 15 13:35:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E64E1065670 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7AC8FC12 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl75-59.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.122.59]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mBFDYngq006589 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:34:54 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mBFDYnTb002457; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:34:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mBFDYnoX002456; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:34:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Wojciech Puchar References: <87iqppdlzh.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20081213002037.F5665@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081213092104.GC39031@kokopelli.hydra> <20081213103054.B8893@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081213194302.GA51063@kokopelli.hydra> <20081213122621.001352ad@gom.home> <20081215061228.GE5527@kokopelli.hydra> <20081215124755.Q53356@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1229343497.1647.40.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20081215134908.P53651@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081215130312.GA42208@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20081215140456.J53751@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <87tz95oa8y.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20081215141113.J53793@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:34:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20081215141113.J53793@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> (Wojciech Puchar's message of "Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:12:16 +0100 (CET)") Message-ID: <87vdtlmuiv.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mBFDYngq006589 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.861, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.54, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Da Rock , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:35:08 -0000 On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:12:16 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> freebsd-questions User questions and technical support >> >> Exactly. Note, however, that 'user questions' means something very >> different from what you are pushing to convince everybody else :-) > > so please start to answer every possible question. for example problems > with windows ftp program. > > it's very FreeBSD-related, as user wanted to download something from > server running FreeBSD. I don't know why you are so certain that the FTP server has no bugs at all, and why it is worthless to spend some time troubleshooting this further. It may sound surprising but this sort of thing may actually lead to an *improved* FreeBSD system by finding bugs that are triggered by the particular combination of client & server. If this doesn't sound interesting to you, then that's ok. You shouldn't feel that it is a duty of yours to do anything about it. All I'm asking in this and previous posts is that you don't take such a strong stance against *others* who may feel inclined to help with the particular issue.