From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 22:40:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DF4106566C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D491C8FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.starpoint.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id AAA07560; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:39:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.starpoint.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1S13nq-0006gt-RQ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:39:50 +0200 Message-ID: <4F4811B4.4000701@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:39:48 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120218 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Lepore References: <201202221334.36484.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <64FF3DF7-6EEA-480D-85AA-5784AF013EA8@lassitu.de> <201202241350.56933.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <1330100633.7317.41.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> In-Reply-To: <1330100633.7317.41.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Erich Dollansky , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: random problem with 8.3 from yesterday X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:40:01 -0000 on 24/02/2012 18:23 Ian Lepore said the following: > I've always > suspected something in the geom layer isn't noticing that a CF or SD > card in the reader got removed/inserted/reformatted, and un-/re-plugging > the whole reader (making the cam layer destroy and recreate the devices) > makes geom aware of the change. This is a fact, actually. Nothing in GEOM layer (and below it) notices a silent card change, since most hardware doesn't have any notification for the change and FreeBSD disk stack doesn't do any polling for changes. -- Andriy Gapon