From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Sep 11 22:51: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0034614DB8 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 22:50:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09984; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:50:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990911232324.04ae2530@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:50:41 -0600 To: Greg Lehey From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Brett or no Brett? Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990912110329.M10106@freebie.lemis.com> References: <199909090252.WAA01836@bellsouth.net> <4.2.0.58.19990908090734.04837d40@localhost> <199909090252.WAA01836@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nothing I've posted so far has been outside the charter of the list, and I've always done my best to be civil and to post on issues which are timely and relevant. My most recent messages, in which I have explicitly traced my course as I've researched the logistics of creating a new FreeBSD distribution, should be of interest to anyone who might one day want to do the same -- or who cares about how amenable FreeBSD might be to the creation of distributions other than those now sold by Walnut Creek CDROM. Nonetheless, there seems to be a relatively small group of people who can be relied upon to pounce on anyone one who asks questions that are, er, inconvenient. And it should be pointed out that Greg, in particular, has a special interest in the outcome of the current discussion. Walnut Creek publishes his book on FreeBSD and distributes it as part of several products. The introduction of new products from other sources might constitute competition for his publisher and also for his book and products that contain it. It is possible that his derogatory comments, quoted below, may be motivated, in whole or in part, by such concerns. It is also possible that some folks might find the issues on which I've been posting to be uninteresting to them personally. That's fine, and it often happens on mailing lists; it's hardly grounds to squelch the poster so long as the messages do not violate the charter of the list. However, any attempt to intimidate, shame, shun, or otherwise "gang up on" any contributor to the list -- especially when that person has raised valid issues -- is an attempt at censorship. Such activities should not be tolerated in ANY community -- and most especially not in an open source development community. --Brett Glass At 11:03 AM 9/12/99 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >Should we have a vote? How many people would like to have Brett on >the list (as a contributor), how many would prefer him to go away (or >at least shut up)? I don't think he's done anything to merit being >forcibly removed, but maybe a vote will help him get the message. > >Greg >-- >See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers >finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message