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Date:      Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:22:57 -0800
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "James Bailie" <jimmy@jamesbailie.com>, <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: Proposed license for IETF Contributions
Message-ID:  <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNEENHFCAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <4380B48C.8080909@jamesbailie.com>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of James Bailie
>Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 9:38 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: Proposed license for IETF Contributions
>
>
>Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> >   You might check this but I believe that the Copyright convention
> > specifically
> > excepts "specifications" from copyright coverage.  I think 
>there's some
> > other
> > classes of original work that fall under this.  How about simply
> > rewriting the
> > ITEF license to designate any RFC as the complete RFC is a 
>specification,
> > and therefore uncopyrightable.
>
>I'm not a lawyer, but I strongly believe under the Berne
>convention RFCs have copyright.  The technical details described
>in an RFC may be protected by other IP laws, such as patent law
>for example, if the originator chose to patent those details, but
>the text of the RFC document itself, describing those details, is
>an original composition which satisfies the terms of the
>convention.  The only means of rescinding copyright is for the
>copyright owner to explicitly place the work into the public
>domain.
>

Which is what applying an IETF RFC license that designates the
ENTIRE rfc as a SPECIFICATION would do so!  Sheesh!

>Simon's proposed license seems reasonable to me. 

Except that it is untried in a court of law.  If the author of an RFC
simply designates the entire RFC as a specification, by using
the IETF license that states "this entire document is a specification"
then you have an easy way to play within the already established
international understandings of what a specification is.

Just because the GNU did it with their own license doesen't mean that
this is a good way to go.

Ted



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