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Date:      Mon, 08 Mar 1999 10:20:00 +0000
From:      Niall Smart <nsmart@kira.team400.ie>
To:        alk@pobox.com
Cc:        robert@kudra.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: base64
Message-ID:  <36E3A450.2ABBFD0E@kira.team400.ie>
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> The base system has expanded.  DHCP is one recent example.
> In the modern world, a system without DHCP is much less generally
> useful than one with DHCP.  MIME should be another functional
> adaptation to the modern environment.  Uu-coding can go. (Well,
> not yet, but before I die.)
> 
> : Thats why we have the ports tree.  If we switched to
> : elm for instance, that would be a wasted megabye of disk for me, and
> : many other people.  Can you say 'Creeping Featureism?'
> 
> Like DHCP.  Or C++.  Creeping Featurism?  I don't think so.
> But it would be better to be able to trivially configure a system
> without DHCP, or C++, or MIME, I agree.

What about the maintanence cost of importing DHCP and a decent C++
compiler
into the base tree?  There is no point of integrating them without a
maintainer who keeps the package in sync with the "vendor sources" in a
reasonably timely manner.

IMHO the ports provide the best compromise to cater for per-site
customisation
without the hassle of maintanence and "lively discussions" over what
constitutes
a base system.  Thats not to say the definition isn't up for debate, but
when in
doubt "make -f /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp/Makefile all install" seems best
to me.

Niall


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