From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 28 11:29:21 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19C715DFA94 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 11:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic304-22.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic304-22.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.179.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 272A06DE92 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 11:29:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: KOMnCboVM1k1xYFc.wbGV5NvFnwyhr0yys3tcI6h_3_0R1t8GNgF2pmdANmQRMt 4fbI1T2bWqnROrHy4QD_IRS6SUIQlqQAqVLmaJWF0dbVArs2Wgh3BcjpDgSJ2HXxKiYaJfHArnyK SxjYjhB0VmROyBZ6Aw5xFzDEjmO0kf6VXvGLGXHKMOWgkKlNosCNUhg3x1pGOnwwwzk7HTLxcoJh 5QpGkVxvxRLpWGWJ37I8pSfETcN7XJShne.lSCtH2FUN8.FPxyO2N8F3jtN_6dCHGFKRxRRqo1Qb s.pREfgaAcxfimUUA2E1lwzmLj4wvz.OnOP7XPJAiZ1jE2l7vGseBaTLOTyHf9fHR8cB9FlslNoA DmHmj1ksKWQ2nyN9Lfg8t797fJl4q7S7TWSmQr5SX8IyWSPNCe3e6wQlBfde.vNssiPOXuHy.daI OcEldyEEEqErBfioIaFpMdWHBlVmBSjELl.VcGHlUIDbA5TQCin537D42lizUUwoSUPREsZa7kL5 F4xR6tvW4i_5HnMkEEeesmca7YOW9x3C13WK7HhRT50kgiD_uiR.MWEluGA4hFo8UtGXFoNBU5XQ JWbuLMQ6cuNTC7ZQNHLaStNSGb7u4GgyuLsbzW8YXXo2GPCiRcHPi6sc6v7nT6M6hAAL2GzNb5UN QvhmisndWiYj5ISjOIZTWc6R3udu0Yea9JG75nnKEdQY42bqBPhWtf0a7Nbqvh34oGd88NQ.LWBT lAo4j9JGJjEKkWlpmpR7qogjP.KDV9hPhQDAPYBjPZg2es.IoQwFoXzb20Okhak2IsPYvQ_y1O1l 4HMKEnQqWCWHKQIgW6MuR68Vec8kYwcTtNFOVQ9GNCpY7NMt0UUIUgCt1CWMREMC8utErYp30RFH 1AmIx9zZ6r4s1bCVAOmIu.cTZpoKr60s64p7Ls.KcQcabnL1.9VakQFn_AG.hb.69bGvKFmNbjaW eahzwqzpvYsfVf00dt6ue.baOK6ksG18NKaBCe4_HomqFdaw9lZeh32TzsJXBaCd_dezYxv6aWkW oJPB2etTfmCG77aSzmdctmg7ePStfmOnPzAiIV.B0RvF3oAJD67hOMl8uzi7EP4EODHE0rwsLMY3 YknSEWBye5NByaQ03I8X0VA.EnaQh1JNjW0siP1YsfvKOqkeCkxRjh1NeGK2DvkYUe7RM7Fne.1i ljXKkpp7n9IgNxTIHGqDyNiWLUbGChrIrP3qy2HIqXRF6RPwTELaVBmsWkEKEvjGbgwU- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic304.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 11:29:16 +0000 Received: from x4e31604e.dyn.telefonica.de (EHLO archlinux) ([78.49.96.78]) by smtp409.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID c94fd8be42adaf3821fcaf31e4ef7770 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 11:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 13:29:15 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I've got a major question... Message-ID: <20190628132915.7a4d9e85@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20190628064243.000007b0@seibercom.net> References: <20190626063443.51ad3f1b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627081518.9dc6f3c2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627091012.44fc65a7@archlinux> <20190627103701.7ea401b8@archlinux> <20190627110340.d0d87cfe.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627113712.8a8ffbb238f478b08514cf72@sohara.org> <20190627080134.000012d6@seibercom.net> <20190627141756.1bf4a848.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627153043.7ce7553c@archlinux> <77a7ea05-6264-d052-e03b-1cc889172f38@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20190627151221.00004412@seibercom.net> <20190627221604.7794d7b0@archlinux> <20190628072716.7efaf909.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190628064243.000007b0@seibercom.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 272A06DE92 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.89 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[78.96.49.78.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; IP_SCORE(1.85)[ip: (5.04), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.41), asn: 34010(1.89), country: GB(-0.09)]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.79)[0.792,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.82)[0.817,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.93)[0.934,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[147.179.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[147.179.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 11:29:21 -0000 On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 06:42:43 -0400, Jerry wrote: >Both Adobe=E2=80=99s and Microsoft=E2=80=99s new business model of leasing= software has >proven successful. Among Artists on iOS the licensing model is unaccepted and there are a lot of very good, inexpensive apps available users don't need to rent. With the new iPadPro it's already possible to replace a lot of apps that required a desktop PC or a laptop a while back. I only need to do a minority of my artwork on a desktop PC and what I still need to do on the desktop PC, could be done with free as in beer FLOSS. It might not work for everybody, some people still might need proprietary software on a desktop PC, but probably they could use old software to do this. By the way everybody accepts that software bought 25 years ago can't be used today. It's also accepted that from time to time an update needs to be bought, as long as it doesn't become a hidden rent model. Instead of rent out the software, vendors could sell new plugins, to get money for new work, instead of selling something again and again without really providing something. A vendor is free to offer special licensing models for schools and companies, but enforcing a licensing model that is useful for schools and companies to very small businesses and private users is just a rip-off.