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[2.247.252.45]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id t133sm3450176wmf.31.2020.02.26.08.11.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 26 Feb 2020 08:11:38 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.60.0.2.5\)) Subject: Re: Showstoppers for RPI3 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:11:35 +0100 References: <20200225175446.GA77976@www.zefox.net> <11951E01-EC13-4FBB-938A-AEB5700C4281@yahoo.com> <20200226052045.GA79939@www.zefox.net> <04e8e290e5d7bb810f76ece4ff33d6e1006e63cd.camel@freebsd.org> To: Ian Lepore , Kyle Evans , freebsd-arm@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <04e8e290e5d7bb810f76ece4ff33d6e1006e63cd.camel@freebsd.org> Message-Id: <280455B5-E201-494F-A4EB-2426A12B7E2C@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48SLQk0HNRz4Ft2 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 16:11:42 -0000 > Am 26.02.2020 um 16:33 schrieb Ian Lepore : >=20 > On Wed, 2020-02-26 at 06:32 +0100, Klaus K=C3=BCchemann via = freebsd-arm > wrote: >> But that=C2=B4s the absolute joke of the century :-) that these = issues >> last so long here on the mailing list=20 >=20 > The current freebsd-arm devs keep pointing out that nobody is > especially interested in maintaining or working on rpi* stuff at all.=20= > Why in the world would you be surprised that nobody is working on it? >=20 > If you want to run freebsd on arm hardware, try using hardware that > people are actually working to support. If you must use crappy rpi > hardware, either run linux on it, or consider paying someone to do the > freebsd support you need. Complaining that nobody will work for free > on hardware they hate working on is just... complaining. Pointlessly. >=20 > -- Ian >=20 >=20 Ian and Kyle, I am very sorry that I was misunderstood.=20 My absolute respect to you, I always follow your work on drivers etc. on = phab , I am not blind and can see, that you have much much work on other = things(like me).. I am the" RPI-hater=E2=80=9C no. 1 :-), have told that 100 times in = fbsd-forums etc from the 1st day on =E2=80=A6 but I am willing to work on it because it = is so much=20 requested=E2=80=A6=20 I am currently working on another gadget, will post that in the Wiki the = next days=E2=80=A6 very good results but when it comes to brcm hw =E2=80=A6.. ;-) =E2=80=A6 But I don=E2=80=99t want that fbsd is so much behind e.g. netbsd in = supporting gadgets=E2=80=A6 Netbsd has meanwhile reached the Ethernet-support for = RPI4(ACPI-based)=E2=80=A6 Wifi is supported there since months=E2=80=A6 and it shouldn=E2=80=99t = be so impossible to e.g. adopt=20 Those solutions to fbsd. ( of course only when people want to work on = it, ).. but Ed Maste stated a clear aarch64->Tier1-roadmap and it looks = funny=20 When we fail in supporting devices while others do=E2=80=A6 and for = netbsd afaik that are=20 even fewer people working on it than fbsd ( just my few cents) . So: Freedom to everyone working on what he wants=E2=80=A6 But it is simply wrong to say that it is nit possible to support the = RPI4 on BSD`s. Regards and sorry again for the misunderstanding of what I wanted to say=20= Klaus =20