From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 3 14:20:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CAA16A41F for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:20:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7033E43D54 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:20:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (cpahev@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j53EJwdj098026 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:19:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j53EJwhw098025; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:19:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:19:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200506031419.j53EJwhw098025@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20050602225453.90075.qmail@web31012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: filesystems not properly unmounted X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:20:02 -0000 yuval levy wrote: > In my opinion, an O/S that can not handle the most > popular file systems is handicapped in a world of > increasing diversity. Please excuse me jumping in here, but ext2/ext3 is certainly _not_ one of the most popular file systems for most members of this mailing list. Personally, I have used the ext2fs driver for exactly one reason: to migrate data from Linux to FreeBSD on machines which are being converted from the Dark Side. And that requires mounting the file system just once (read-only), copying the data, then umount it, followed by newfs. There's no need to even think about shutting down while the ext2fs is still mounted. I'd recommend against mounting any ext2/ext3 file systems permanently for sharing data between Linux and FreeBSD. There are better ways to do that. (The best way, of course, is getting rid of Linux in the first place.) Best regards Oliver PS: For what it's worth, the most popular filesystems for me are UFS/UFS2, NFS, ISO9660, UDF, and maybe FAT. No more. I guess for the majority of computer users the most popular filesystems are NTFS, ISO9660, FAT and maybe HFS, and they don't even know what "ext2" is. :-) -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "FreeBSD is Yoda, Linux is Luke Skywalker" -- Daniel C. Sobral