From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 7 20: 1:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from Awfulhak.org (gw.Awfulhak.org [217.204.245.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F69337B409 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2001 20:01:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by Awfulhak.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6830n400728; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 04:00:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6832Kn42932; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 04:02:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200107080302.f6832Kn42932@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Richard Hodges Cc: Brian Somers , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, wes@softweyr.com, brian@Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral In-Reply-To: Message from Richard Hodges of "Sat, 07 Jul 2001 15:51:51 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 04:02:20 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Brian Somers wrote: > > > Richard Hodges wrote: > > > And as far as distribution goes, if my vote counts, I would suggest > > > that anyone should have the right to sell (or give away) copies for > > > whatever price they want. The more copies, the better! I fail to > > > see why FreeBSD distribution should be "guided" to certain entities > > > based on their political contributions. > > > FSL have thought quite a bit about this -- what's acceptable as a > > FreeBSD release. We need some sort of balance. On one hand, we (the > > FreeBSD project) want to encourage distributors to produce copies of > > FreeBSD with added-value. On the other hand, we don't want to end up > > with the linux-effect. > > Really? I was hoping to see a new disto with the FreeBSD userland > wrapped around a Linux kernel :-) Or was it the other way around... > > But as far as "added-value" goes, why wouldn't minimum cost be an > added value to a potential customer? I think that the companies > like Cheapbytes serve a social purpose in this regard. I'm not having a go at Cheapbytes. I'm just saying that their CDs should be labeled official or unofficial based on their content. If they want to drop the base ISO image onto a CD and sell it, then they're as official as anybody else. > > So I think the idea of an ``official'' distribution is good, but only > > insofar as that implies that the distribution contains a specific > > base system. Anyone who mucks about with that official base system > > in a way that's not controlled by the user should not be allowed to > > call their distribution ``official''. > > Sure, no argument there. Taking Wes' suggestion, maybe there is an > opportunity in the "official" distribution distinction. How about a > "certificate of authenticity" which costs the vendors $1 or $2 (or > whatever), and shows the customer that their choice of vendors helped > FreeBSD financially. Incidentally, this certificate might also be a > selling point for those twisted individuals that just don't understand > free software :-) Companies that sell CDs shouldn't necessarily be limited in the ways that they can give back to the project. If a company (WRS for example) are forking out lots of money to the FreeBSD project already, why should they have to now send money to the foundation ? Besides, our software is free, it's not shareware. > Thanks for the info, > > -Richard > > ------------------------------------------- > Richard Hodges | Matriplex, inc. > Product Manager | 769 Basque Way > rh@matriplex.com | Carson City, NV 89706 > 775-886-6477 | www.matriplex.com -- Brian http://www.freebsd-services.com/ Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message