From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 18:13:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF65216A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:13:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes46.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E4343D55 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:13:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pfak@telus.net) Received: from hartkiem2nnl7x ([206.116.24.146]) by priv-edtnes46.telusplanet.netSMTP <20040919181349.RDGK7430.priv-edtnes46.telusplanet.net@hartkiem2nnl7x>; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:13:49 -0600 Message-ID: <003f01c49e74$6b444e10$bb01a8c0@hartkiem2nnl7x> From: "Peter Kieser" To: References: <010801c49dee$72cc5eb0$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg><1095546154.671.6.camel@elemental.DashEvil><010e01c49df0$a5b79400$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg><20040919055918.A5844@server1.ultratrends.com> <014d01c49e72$05fcf220$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:13:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please explain. (What is HawkinsOS?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:13:50 -0000 You are breaking licensing terms with "your" HawkinsOS. I'd probably like to point out the fact that this is more then starting a "war" with the FreeBSD developers, but going much farther then that. Be advised that significant portions of FreeBSD were released under licenses that include terms other then the BSD License, and that you must follow if you want to advertise your OS. -- Peter Kieser Home: 604.338.9294 / Email: pfak@telus.net // "Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow." // ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Technical Director" Cc: ; ; Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 10:56 AM Subject: Re: Please explain. (What is HawkinsOS?) > Ok, I just wanted an answer and I already got a *few* good answers and I > DONT WANT A WAR. > > Yes, HawkinsOS is FreeBSD 5.x based and the goal is to donate back to the > community, but this is irrelevant! The questions were not even over > HawkinsOS. > > Let's all refrain from starting a huge arguement I have already received > my > answers. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Technical Director" > To: > Cc: ; ; > > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 7:13 AM > Subject: Re: Please explain. (What is HawkinsOS?) > > >> >> Err, maybe you should use ... HawkinsOS??? >> >> T.J.HAWKINS Secure, Stable, Supported Operating System... >> >> I really enjoyed that. >> >> Maybe this inquiry is to get the developers to work out HawkinsOS, >> whatever version of FreeBSD you sed'd s/FreeBSD/HawkinsOS/g, problems >> with multi-threading? >> >> My troll addition. >> >> PS >> >> Your site says you are a Programmer, providing proof of concepts for what >> you are discussing shouldn't be to hard. >> >> *** >> >> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: >> >> > Your taking it the wrong way, I was simply asking a question to the >> > developers to confirm this. >> > >> > I have standardized on FreeBSD. >> > >> > I apologized if I made it seem like I was trolling, not my intention. >> > >> > If a business were to standardize on FreeBSD, they would love to know >> > if > the >> > multithreading issues would be fixed completely correctly not just >> > 'work-arounds'. >> > >> > >> > sorry and thanks >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Chris Laverdure" >> > To: >> > Cc: ; ; >> > >> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:22 PM >> > Subject: Re: Please explain. >> > >> > >> > > On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 02:14, timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: >> > > > Ask the FreeBSD developers, any of them with honesty should tell >> > > > you > or >> > > > proof me false. I dare you to proof this false, I would be so happy > if >> > you >> > > > did. Just because I'm using MS Mailer does not reflect whom I am. I > have >> > > > only 1 MS workstation with 9 others unix. >> > > > >> > > > I expected a mature response from most of you, calling names is NOT > the >> > way >> > > > to resolve problems. I just want an answer to see if this is true. >> > > > >> > > > **Is it true**? This is what I've noticed myself and many >> > > > high-scale >> > > > developers. >> > > > >> > > > Thank you >> > > >> > > 1) The burden of proof is on the person making the allegations. >> > > >> > > 2) Calling a troll on being a troll is mature. >> > > >> > > 3) If you believe it to be true, then don't use FreeBSD. Nobody is > tying >> > > your hands here. You believe DragonFlyBSD to be superior? Then use >> > > it. >> > > >> > > Maybe I just don't see the big deal here, but the developers owe you >> > > nothing. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >