From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 30 21:43:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DF71065686 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6038FC23 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id M2XS1a0010mv7h0549jPf3; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:43:23 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([67.180.253.227]) by OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id M9j51a0064v8bD73X9j5cV; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:43:06 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QyXUC8HyAAAA:8 a=h3jrFwpMAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=1sxjICzKQYnBB12ymawA:9 a=cjDVd6NyhcBTEmC_xlsA:7 a=eYaP5NnOAy7y8tLZLE4I7Le_Z0oA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D5440C9419; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:43:21 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Oliver Lehmann Message-ID: <20080930214321.GA57024@icarus.home.lan> References: <20080929221408.54e6a03a.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <48E201DF.5090001@kkip.pl> <20080930104827.GB44675@icarus.home.lan> <20080930165534.f49f9f17.lehmann@ans-netz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20080930165534.f49f9f17.lehmann@ans-netz.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Bartosz Stec Subject: Re: system hangup - I'm lost X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:43:25 -0000 On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 04:55:34PM +0200, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > Hi, > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:39:27PM +0200, Bartosz Stec wrote: > > > Personally I'd rather bet on some hardware problem (overheating?) Try to > > > install mbmon from ports. I had also similiar problems with old > > > motherboards with swelled capacitors. > > > > Be careful with mbmon and healthd -- just because they compile and run > > does not mean they're working properly (the values shown may be > > completely unreliable/incorrect). > > > > It's best to check such things in the system BIOS, unless you have > > absolute certainty that your motherboard is supported by mbmon/healthd. > > The systems chipset (440GX - board is > http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/l440gx/) is not > supported by mbmon. All I can check is the temperature of the harddrives > and they are between 30 - 45 °C. Which just means nothing for the CPUs ;) The chipset rarely matters (I've yet to encounter any PC chipset that natively handles full fan, voltage, and temperature monitoring), but the motherboard model can tell me a lot. :-) Boards have to include an external H/W monitoring IC (such as one from National Semiconductor (LMxx), AMD, or Winbond), have thermistors placed around the board, and have the H/W IC tied into the ISA or SMBus. Sometimes the H/W monitoring IC also acts as a super I/O chip (which means it handles serial, parallel, keyboard, mouse, and floppy disks -- and sometimes IDE). I can't find anything on Intel's site that clues me in; all the PDFs are vague as far as what chips are on the board. I tried searching for a high-resolution photo of the L440GX on Google Images, but I find none which are sharp/clear enough. The best I could find was this: http://bbs.yjfy.com/UploadFile/2008-2/20082818545062073.jpg I see Intel northbridge and southbridges, a Cirrus Logic (VGA?) chip, an Intel flash chip (probably for CMOS), and an Intel NIC. Four chips I don't recognise are an Intel chip on the far right, a mystery chip at the bottom of the board (can't make out company logo), and two chips with "E" in their company logo (right of PCI slots). Possibly one of these handles H/W monitoring. If you can reboot the system and go into the BIOS, see if you can find anything that looks remotely like CPU and system temperatures, as well as voltages. If there's no such menu, the board likely has no support for such. P.S. -- You're the 2nd person I've encountered in under a week who's using 440BX/GX-based hardware in present day. I would not be surprised if the board is simply going bad/failing due to age. :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |