From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 22:59:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7958106564A for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0155A8FC21 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.starpoint.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id AAA05813; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:59:08 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.starpoint.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1RneTE-00095q-M2; Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:59:08 +0200 Message-ID: <4F174EBB.30001@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:59:07 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer References: <5000.1326883643@critter.freebsd.dk> <4F16A8C6.9070709@FreeBSD.org> <20120118103917.21d9751b@mikmeyer-vm-fedora> In-Reply-To: <20120118103917.21d9751b@mikmeyer-vm-fedora> X-Enigmail-Version: undefined Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is becoming ... by, and for, FreeBSD developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:59:12 -0000 on 18/01/2012 20:39 Mike Meyer said the following: > There were developers in the community for whom seeing people using > their code was the priority goal. Trust me, there are still a lot of developers like that even now. The problem is not with the developers, it is with the users! They got spoiled. They don't want just the code anymore. They want QA, they want stability, they want schedules... :-) -- Andriy Gapon