From owner-freebsd-bugs Tue Mar 18 3:26:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D020137B401 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 03:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8559643FAF for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 03:26:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 09B8B5308; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 12:26:34 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Ed Alley Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: kern/47982: Response to Dag-Erling From: des@ofug.org (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 12:26:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200303172340.h2HNeD0R001479@freefall.freebsd.org> (Ed Alley's message of "Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:40:13 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090015 (Oort Gnus v0.15) Emacs/21.2 References: <200303172340.h2HNeD0R001479@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First some general advice: find out who you're talking to and adjust your level of arrogance accordingly. > That's a silly idea. Either the FS should fly as a kernel module > as submitted or else forget it. A port exists in user-land NOT > kernel-land. Bollocks. There are currently at least five ports that install loadable modules, and there have been others in the past. > The VFS/VNODE interface changes from RELEASE to > RELEASE. That is simply not true. > This would mean that the port would need to be upgraded > for each release of FreeBSD. Others seem to manage just fine. > I apologize to Andrew Tanenbaum for misspelling his name; I meant > no disrespect to him and I will correct the error in the appropriate > places. Thank-you for pointing that out to me; however, the remark > that you made that I want to see him dressed up as a Christmas tree, > seems a little desparate to me: Is that the extent of your criticism > of this submittal? It's a joke. Tannebaum (double n) is the German word for "fir tree", the kind commonly used as Christmas tree and celebrated in song ("O Tannenbaum, O Tannenbaum Wie treu sind deine Bl=E4tter", which is strange because fir trees have needles, not leaves). The melody may be familiar to you: at least four American states use it for their state anthem. > Secondly, It says in the handbook to submit large code as a PR. To paraphrase J. R. R. Tolkien - "don't quote the handbook to me, I wrote it". If the handbook really says to submit large patches in problem reports, please tell me where so I can correct it. The authoritative text on submitting FreeBSD problem reports is: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/problem-reports/ If you'd read it, you'd at least know the proper way to attach a patch to a PR. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message