From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 2 00:20:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6F81065674 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from mail.vex.net (smaug.vex.net [208.76.104.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247298FC14 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from [192.168.110.8] (unknown [207.35.13.77]) by mail.vex.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 867901707F for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49D4011F.5080003@utoronto.ca> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:04:47 -0400 From: William Gordon Rutherdale User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <200904011335.n31DZT6D062212@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why?? (prog question) X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:20:08 -0000 KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Oliver Fromme wrote: > >> Polytropon wrote: >> > William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: > >> In all of those cases, I simply press the key to >> indent, and the key to dedent. There is no >> need to change habits. The editor takes care of it. >> I assume that every modern editor can be configured that >> way. > > Since this is in chat, I guess I feel okay about making a fool > of myself. Not everybody wants to deal with every week's new > set of script kiddle gobbleygook. I hold a BSCS from the > "late cretaceous" of 1989. After that I started studying > molecular biology under the mistaken assumption that the > blythering human race would stop idiotically barrelling into > oblivion chopping off the icecaps at breakneck speed. Currently, > having idioticaly tried to get back into computer science, I am > enrolled in an MSCS at San Francisco State University. I keep > crashing my kernels and keep getting insulted and rejected by > the "online open source community" so I guess take what I have > to say with a grain of salt. > > I learned the vi editor in 1985 and I am comfortable living on > command lines without this "modern editor" nonsense. I have to > say contemplating getting fired because some tyrant is going > to bite my head off for failing to look at page 1234 of the documentation > that clearly states that I MUST use a "modern editor" that will > automate tabbing of my code makes me want to blow my head off > right now and save the damn world the trouble. > > >> Best regards >> Oliver >> >> PS: Personally I think that the tab character (ASCII 9) >> should die. It is a vestige of the IT middle ages, it has >> no right to exist anymore today, and it only causes problems. >> The very existence of this thread proves this point. > > I am now very confused. I thought I was arguing with this person, > and now it appears we agree. Next, I'll be arguing with myself. > YOU are confused? I read your email and see that you quoted me as saying what someone else wrote. You quote ME as saying that stuff about " to dedent". In fact I did not write that. The other guy wrote that. I don't think I've ever written the word "dedent" in my life, at least until this paragraph. In fact, I'm not convinced that it IS a word. Regarding your other rant, I am (slightly) older than the president of the United States, with an old-style university background in Mathematics and Computer Science, and I don't see why you're so bothered over a "modern" editor with capabilities approaching that of editors that were available in the 1970s, such as Wordstar. What exactly is your problem with configuring your editor, to the point that you have to blow your head off? -Will