Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 19:15:00 -0400 From: Ugen Antsilevitch <ugen@xonix.com> To: Kevin Day <toasty@dragondata.com> Cc: Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI modems do not work??? Message-ID: <37D44AF4.92D4120C@xonix.com> References: <199909062117.QAA49795@celery.dragondata.com>
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> > > I volonteer to be your first alpha-tester. I have this modem > > > blaster thing. It is PCI and it has a UART. I was going to sell it > > > and shell out lots of money for USRobotics 56K ISA real modem. BTW > > > they call it "legacy" modem - i think the general direction is such > > > that PCI will be the only kind available very soon... > > I think you're panicking prematurely, Ugen. You're also checking the > > very bottom of the market, and you're exaggerating (in your comment > > about shelling out lot's of cash for a conventional modem) the cost of > > a regular modem. Things just aren't that desperate. > I did not say they are.. They will be more urgent however when ISA is gone (and that day seems to be soon). I also did not advocate support for winmodems. As a matter of fact all i said is - we do not support REAL (UART based) PCI modems - those sitting on PCI bus and doing their modem thing. And this is important. I am quite sure there are many applications of the system where this is irrelevant. However if we are to continue being a viable choice for any user requiring remote dial up capability when ISA is phased out, we have at a very least to support PCI modems. > > > It's possible the trend is in a direction I don't like, but I'll still > > keep my external conventional modem. It's 33.6, not 56, which means > > that my friends can dial into my system, which they can't do if it's a > > 56K. That's very nice sometimes. > Hmm..one cannot dial into 56K modem? This is news to me. I was able to dial into mine..may be i am daydreaming though. The speed is obviously not 56K but it does seem to work.. or am i missing something? > Well, he's partially true. > > We're looking at mass buying several thousand PCI modems. The cost for a > non-winmodem model is about 3x the Winmodem style. (You can buy winmodems > very cheap, since everyone is making them now. You can't buy non-winmodem's > cheap because only a few are doing it, and they now charge a premium for > this). > I just bought an ISA UART modem for 40$..it is a noname jumper discount brand. It was the only kind available at a local computer marketpro sale. They had scores of winmodems and some PCI based non-winmodems. Again, if FreeBSD will ever be installed on any machines sold there to consumers - PCI has to be supported. Supporting winmodems btw would be nice, although i doubt manufacturers will give us their code. > Another issue is the upcoming death of ISA. Several of Intel's next chipsets > don't support ISA at all, making this a somewhat timely problem. > Exactly... BTW sorry if my message sounded panicky - but if the result is moving some good developers towards adding a useful functionality , gee - may be i succeeded accidentally?:)))) O yes..on this computer market thing they had a FreeBSD book , it's the only one that wasn't discounted (44$ as opposed to 10$-15$ on most other comp. books) but seemed to be read MANY times over... *They* like us?:))) --Ugen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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