From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 22 10:53:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0631065679 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout7.freenet.de (mout7.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220BD8FC0C for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [195.4.92.23] (helo=13.mx.freenet.de) by mout7.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.70 #1) id 1NN2N7-0007xF-Iw; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:53:45 +0100 Received: from p57ae00f6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([87.174.0.246]:36758 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 13.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1NN2N7-0005tw-1b; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:53:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:53:36 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Xin LI Message-ID: <20091222115336.3515e69e@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.16.2; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, "Jason A. Spiro" , Craig Small Subject: Re: Suggestion: rename "killall" to "fkill", but wait five years to phase the new name in X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:53:47 -0000 On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:18:43 -0800 Xin LI wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Jason A. Spiro wrote: > > Craig, and hackers, are you both willing to do this? > > No. > > killall is not part of standard, and, just because System V choose to > implement that way, does not warrant that FreeBSD has to. Moreover, > user can always alias /sbin/killall to 'fkill' and 'kill -15 -1' to > 'killall' if they really want the System V behavior. > I'm wondering why we even need killall when pkill seems to have the same basic functionality and is located in /bin (and /rescue) rather than /usr/bin? --- Gary Jennejohn