From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 29 21:38:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B638106564A for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@freebsd.org) Received: from nm27-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm27-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 713B68FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.67] by nm27.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2011 21:25:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.19] by tm7.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2011 21:25:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2011 21:25:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 413486.44281.bm@omp1019.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 42285 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Dec 2011 21:25:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1325193959; bh=+UFRMj8lBQtpNJzCK+ASzRGwTp7ghLO2M7eor/kN0O4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Q/j6/d4WZ4fu5nacjUSPKMaLH3yjTDkrFKglUXL0HjnS66h9raZkp2aJzd6HQxpTEc4CIagAlXaPCNNiBVNBFG9E7nBjXQee/HIr/OGgwOTE8iP8eYGLKazaf0dqQZGAyveOarjoUOmuYIogqw3DSizYsnd8eN02f7LDQB9XXUc= X-YMail-OSG: pcZjkSkVM1lxHeiAKIZtVDVJWCJ9WdHEDJxxlYp5LS47rEA 91UI4WD2d3dfV5rKimb9A3N56U1Z4KjZT2TcjEWTwvw_AFst4Bj9dF_siWpm J9cD8IrqrpqQXGEyKvc.AhqXc2x35A2LcLPcYhQX52UPV0_J3X3a6ml8.F.I E6RuEx0AlQGcguSF97AUy0XtAnU_aV7O_4emzcEtPTE3toOI4Odx5W9TUujb 3Fjo37ulyO.1o7RHogvwNORcOrf2pflEXRf8uNnnX4LaKdLe28YRE5T5FWel K2vvJ2Y9egn0QvFDXh7Z2l_.L.g7WXD1ueFMEt_I3S5NIJubDDvRntvGgPtK L3jsqayK2o_YIJPX29V4_GacW4iWYMhw4VWrv8HZDlmY2vGlBvr1ghIXk.I6 mS9fd.35iOh57X1fLAtc0cjJWeqVLEs9Y8tC4.Pf5LBLpqqA_lp2HWO2Z2Pt qDP9SsF02SEnAADJBYmfipWJ6u2ga1o4HwD14CKD_40CdxNLYEQx6DIg3tfO VL7vzlYUcu7EU01pr3uPS5Hzg9D1NZNJKy.n6ReFZoDAjldo9Dy7owXGPxfY IXUtzuuU- Received: from [200.118.157.7] by web113520.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:25:58 PST X-RocketYMMF: giffunip X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 Message-ID: <1325193958.31545.YahooMailClassic@web113520.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:25:58 -0800 (PST) From: Pedro Giffuni To: Chris Rees In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Nathan Whitehorn Subject: Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pfg@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:38:21 -0000 =0A=0A--- Gio 29/12/11, Chris Rees ha scritto:=0A=0A> >= FWIW;=0A> >=0A> > I have practically given up on installing FreeBSD=0A> la= tely=0A> > and I mostly use PC-BSD. I mainly see two big issues:=0A> >=0A> = > -X.Org has become very difficult to install. Setting=0A> up=0A> > hald an= d friends, not to mention that you have to=0A> > choose carefully your hard= ware previously. It's a=0A> > nightmare.=0A> =0A> I've not found that... in= stalling xorg-drivers with the=0A> correct options is hassle-free... have y= ou posted these=0A> problems to -x11@?=0A>=0A=0AHmm.. I think it was 8.2 an= d "X.org -configure" didn't=0Agive me a working screen, and then I discover= ed I had to=0Abe using hald, it was painful and I starting keeping a=0Acopy= of my working configuration in a USB mem. TBH the=0A-x11 guys were really = doing their own homework keeping up=0Awith linux and I was able to find out= the information on=0Athe net.=0A=0AI use the nvidia driver, no idea what p= eople with ATI=0Acards do.=0A=0A=0A> > - I am OK with sysinstall disappeari= ng: however it=0A> was=0A> > nice to have all the setup tools in one place.= How am=0A> > I supposed to install prebuilt packages (and the=0A> myriad= =0A> > of dependencies) from now on? Ports are cool but=0A> having=0A> > to= wait to rebuild gcc to be able to use scilab is a=0A> > nonsense.=0A> =0A>= Use packages, we do do them!=0A>=0A=0AOf course, but no idea how to use th= em without=0Asysinstall's post-install configuration screen: it=0Awas just = too easy.=0A=0AI hope I don't have to start downloading manually all=0Athe = prepackaged dependencies (I still do that with=0AJava and it's not nice).= =0A=0APedro.