From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 8 23:23:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC9B16A469 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 23:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from waynec@spinnaker.com) Received: from schooner.spinnaker.com (schooner.spinnaker.com [199.175.163.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334B213C48D for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 23:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from waynec@spinnaker.com) Received: from schooner.spinnaker.com (localhost.spinnaker.com [127.0.0.1]) by schooner.spinnaker.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lA8NN6Sx070048 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:23:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from waynec@schooner.spinnaker.com) Received: (from waynec@localhost) by schooner.spinnaker.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lA8NN5It070046 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:23:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from waynec) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:23:05 -0800 From: Wayne Chapeskie To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071108232305.GA69526@spinnaker.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <1194265386.00824555.1194254402@10.7.7.3> <1194268981.00824558.1194255605@10.7.7.3> <1194308585.00824903.1194295801@10.7.7.3> <1194524604.00826000.1194511207@10.7.7.3> <47330C8B.1090808@icyb.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47330C8B.1090808@icyb.net.ua> X-PGP-Key: http://www.spinnaker.com/~waynec/pgp-key.html X-PGP-KeyID: 0xB9D2D272 X-PGP-Fingerprint: CCFE 68D8 0468 A78F BA9D F388 8D14 7A5A B9D2 D272 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Re: [FreeBSD 7.0-BETA1 and beyound] Rescue environment is non-functional on AMD64/Intel64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:23:19 -0000 On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 03:18:03PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > > on 08/11/2007 00:25 Wayne Chapeskie said the following: > > For BETA2, there is a separate livefs iso image available for amd64 and > > ia64. The i386 disc1 ISO's still include "Fixit" functionality, in the > > usual place in the first sysinstall menu. If the required packages take > > up too much space for the i386 release, we will probably see a separate > > livefs ISO for this as well. Earlier releases or snapshots for the > > amd64 and ia64 may not have had the same space constraints, and > > perhaps included fixit/livefs functionality on the disc1 ISO. > > BTW, maybe this should be documented somewhere ? > Explanations like this one should not be left to mailing list archives > and search engine indexes alone. > > It seems that livefs ISOs are produced for some time now, but I never > saw any description of them. This might not be a good example, but if I > google for "FreeBSD livefs" I don't get any meaningful results, mostly > links to the ISOs. So until now I was puzzled about the purpose of those > ISOs and their difference to disk1 live fs functionality. Yes, I am a > newcomer from i386 to amd64. We are still in the beta stage of the release cycle, where the mailing list is actually a good place to find out what is going on. Web site documentation usually doesn't catch up until release time. The purposes of the various release ISO images are documented in the release announcements -- see the 6.2 release announcement at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html which did indeed mention the "live CD" functionality in disc1. In 6.2, only ia64 had a livefs ISO, amd64 did not, nor did i386. The configuration of the release ISO's does change over the years, and has in the past been documented in a README in the ftp directories, and is now documented in the release announcements. The ia64 livefs ISO was a slight oversight in the 6.2 release notes, but since we are going to be seeing more cases of livefs not fitting on the disc1 install, I imagine future release announcements will reflect that. -- Wayne Chapeskie