From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 10:31:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5787316A420 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:31:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8907243D4C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:31:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id k0AAVX7B026961; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:31:35 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E5E79115DF; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:30:02 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:30:02 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20060110103002.GB1415@flame.pc> References: <666bdb140601081330m3b394a02v@mail.gmail.com> <20060109140254.92455.qmail@web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43C2C7FE.1010703@chuckr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43C2C7FE.1010703@chuckr.org> Cc: JD Arnold , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which is the best open source C/C++ IDE out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:31:57 -0000 On 2006-01-09 15:30, Chuck Robey wrote: >JD Arnold wrote: >> That's why you should graduate to Emacs - with the makefile syntax >> highlighting, you'll at least see the differences between tabs and >> spaces before getting into trouble due to bad whitespacing!-) > > you're certainly giving a viewpoint that has a great deal of > truth to it, but I guess what scares folks is the horrible, > horrible emacs learning curve,. At one point in my career (in > school, lisp programming) I learned/used emacs. I admit, it's > got so much power, there isn't even a close competitor. BUT at > that time, I had a genius girl programmer at my side, and she > helped me with emacs syntax so heavily it was funny, and so I > could make use of emacs without really having to scale the > learning curve. > > If I'd actually had to scale that learning curve, do you think > I would have, even COULD have used emacs? One of the worst > things I had happen, I needed, one year later, to go back to vi > for a job, and just forgot enough emacs usages, and never went > back. I'd love to, but I'd have to find another genius Lisp > girlfriend, before I could do that. > > Likely? That's why emacs isn't the world's most popular editor/IDE. If you remove the artificial requirement of the help person being your girlfriend at the same time too, I'm sure a lot of the current Emacs users will be glad to help /me grins