From owner-freebsd-www Sun May 4 13:47:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA16411 for www-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA16403 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA23204; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:43:42 +0200 X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <23203.862370725@time.cdrom.com> References: Your message of "Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:15:21 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:46:43 +0200 To: www@freebsd.org From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: New Web design Cc: John Fieber , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , wosch@apfel.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id NAA16406 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk So, after a busy weekend (drum roll): http://www.promo.de/people/stefan/freebsd/home1/ A new home page for FreeBSD (2nd try). Also look at the links marked with *; I have reorganized some pages quite a bit. As always, this just a suggestion. (The navbar doesn't work yet, and its alignment with the home page is rather incidential.) Points for further discussion: - What topics should the navbar contain? - Do we want to use a map, or individual images on the navbar? - Does this table stuff really work with most browsers? - Inclusion of other languages into the home page and the www tree; - Inclusion of local information into the home page and the www tree. - Further reorganization for different audiences (first time user, experienced user, developer)? - Where to put: the Source Tree, cvsweb, and alike; I think this is neither "documentation" nor "support"; maybe we want to add a section on "Developer Info"? While providing both additional languages (read: translation of the english pages) and local information is definitly worthwhile, it could easly grow into a maintainance nightmare. I would suggest the following structure. A typical FreeBSD WWW server (including www.freebsd.org) provides one or more of: - http://www.XX.freebsd.org/en/ the English pages (what is now /) - http://www.XX.freebsd.org/YY/ other languages such as JP, DE, PO, or FR; verbose translation of English version - http://www.XX.freebsd.org/ a link/redirect to the "preferred" language home page on that server) - http://www.XX.freebsd.org/local/YY/ information local to country XX, in language YY A translated version should provide tranlations for at least the Web pages, the Handbook and FAQ being a plus. The non-english pages are maintained by a group of native speakers, on a server local to them. The documents are distributed through CVSup, so that any FreeBSD Web server can provide any language version it wants. Examples: http://www.freebsd.org/en/ - English home page on "main" server http://www.de.freebsd.org/fr/ - French home page on German mirror http://www.de.freebsd.org/local/de/ - Local pages for Germany in German. http://www.de.freebsd.org/local/en/ - Local pages for Germany in English. Problems: - I currently have no good idea how to integrate the cgis into this scheme. - Most current links are broken. - What to do if a server does not provide a certain tree. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ Private: Mühlendamm 12 | Tel. +49-40-256848 D-22089 Hamburg | e-mail: stefan.bethke@hanse.de