From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Sep 11 13:46:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DD0BD611C for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9E3B51 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6F03ABD611B; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAAEBD611A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x242.google.com (mail-lf0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3390B50 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x242.google.com with SMTP id k12so4678561lfb.1 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 06:45:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=JnKxei+351EoQtqejK8x/5DzlhUp18J99/gKyof8OSQ=; b=D8TVkb9AhRldy/2QY86qrqQC+3rbbgWqNUqDtiUYiEGNJ6h6+1HfCQbXAUtWHf/qUE bxRi+IM94XpgTkgg/tZY6wT89sraFd8/KmMzFJYiEQCirgBHJ9nL2nz+gsU4uwe2WuqZ zo2hHtG9vOg3uQ182/HTGu5BMuA9iv7exvca0XClFlV82KdlZGHNSUNUdMlifyEah59n HjCdbc3AZOUpfOUoeoAnw9s7+cudGEfxniHGmI9jKUkea8z5k2rXQ2j4xfP3D7MJLrj+ Ugk6Ac+fJvlghI8vi2YadtPIm1epq0NQjpb8cIEFrSQM8PmFNJ/BGpZV+akg6tDHv7j5 UzQA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=JnKxei+351EoQtqejK8x/5DzlhUp18J99/gKyof8OSQ=; b=FXI6tcsOHwpSoNhQ39gSNRGtiDsQz5BCKCzqA9+gC9HIZgE6g0v80cMcXAXnQbXZdP Brk506V3cUY5QCWrI69/ksjz3gGc3MCstRDdLP/zg/HfKr8pLsCwEFEcRu5BP6RzfDMv n7LlTDkuE7UeCO9YJgEdB2k2h0IwF0ZNv4ZvB72JI2R3PXm+37at7FIpJPUFjVpcpnP6 ng/tm9/sEAnXa9bgiwm+DUXIATbvOtbP5koTqmnvUn/cBFSiYuxuoRcrHjIXQvntXPny Wy6nTMe7upNlyqWAbxr3Cmssv/ltyp26Jo0gseDg9Yg0f4z0XaPpg6j7bKF8qzJ0210q qylw== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPq11/KFvzHqa5n7V1b/9LzOb4o7I76+9QhOwo9oKg1g428EgBLX5nPvHMvXcD6Pw== X-Received: by 10.25.17.224 with SMTP id 93mr605775lfr.77.1473601557818; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 06:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ivaldir.etoilebsd.net ([2001:41d0:8:db4c::1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h65sm2291534lfi.35.2016.09.11.06.45.55 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 11 Sep 2016 06:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 15:45:54 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12 Message-ID: <20160911134554.lvymjjkdvsbdcwqq@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <20160911133804.a7j7p3x2viqzcpec@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4pupc3m7zpkyplwu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160911133804.a7j7p3x2viqzcpec@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.2-neo (2016-08-08) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:46:00 -0000 --4pupc3m7zpkyplwu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > hi, >=20 > For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed atte= mpt > before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from Fr= eeBSD > 12. >=20 > GNU rcs is a GPLv2 software with newer version being GPLv3 preventing any > updates/fixes. >=20 > From previous discussions there were issues that has been raised in previ= ous > attempts: > - ident(1) is still useful given we still have Keywords in our sources. I= t has > been replaced by a BSD Licensed version (enhanced to improve compatibil= ity > with Subversion Keyword) for FreeBSD 11. So that tool will remain in ba= se > after removal of GNU rcs. > - etc-update uses merge(1) from GNU rcs, this has been changed in head to= use > diff3 instead. > - rc.subr allows to use rcs for the backup file functionality. This > functionality is off by default as such I plan to make a warning if rcs= is not > installed and recommand to install rcs from base (or if noone claim usi= ng the > feature I will just remove the functionality and only keep the default > behaviour aka keep one backup copy). > - people uses rcs to handle configuration files in /etc for example. for = those > multiple compatible alternatives are available in ports: > * rcs57: a copy of the latest version of GNU rcs in base before removal > (GPLv2) > * rcs: latest GNU rcs version (GPLv3) >=20 > I haven't gone the direction of importing OpenRCS (BSD licensed version f= rom > OpenBSD) as it needs way more work to be 100% compatible with latest vers= ion of > GNU rcs. >=20 > How to proceed: > - First turn off GNU rcs by default for a couple of month. > - Totally remove GNU rcs if no blockers has been raised. >=20 > Best regards, > Bapt I forgot to say freebsd-update uses merge(1) and which I will replaced with diff3(1). 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