Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 10:41:48 +0200 From: Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org> To: Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>, rgrimes@freebsd.org Cc: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, svn-src-head <svn-src-head@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r366186 - in head/usr.sbin: bsdconfig/share/media bsdinstall/scripts Message-ID: <f719c9dd-003e-93e8-fc1f-d946f5fc32fe@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <58A46C41-07DE-41F4-A3F9-668035347D8B@samsco.org> References: <202009262324.08QNOjbQ056906@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <58A46C41-07DE-41F4-A3F9-668035347D8B@samsco.org>
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On 2020-09-27 03:38, Scott Long wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On Sep 26, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Rodney W. Grimes <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.n= et> wrote: >> >> =EF=BB=BF >>> >>> >>>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am the wrong person to answer that question. >>>> >>>> In this case, things have not become lame. For instance, the names >>>> ervers for se.freebsd.org work fine, but ftp3.se and ftp6.se records= are >>>> removed. Same for ru.freebsd.org and ftp4.ru. >>>> I'm merely pointing out that changing ftp.CC.freebsd.org usually >>>> requires contacting the person(s) maintaining the CC.freebsd.org zon= e, >>>> which is usually not the project. >>>> >>>> It's usually people associated with the project in some way, but who= might not be as responsive as cluster admin. These domains have been del= egated, so we have to get the delegated admin to make the changes, which = can take a bit of time to chase down and doesn't lend itself to easy / au= tomated coping with this situation. >>>> >>> >>> Just a spitball idea here, but maybe we should consider not embedding= these lists of mirror URLs into the binaries. It seems pretty straight-= forward that the list evolves over time, and that evolution is not tightl= y coupled with the updating of the binaries. It sounds like the pkg and = freebsd-update infrastructure use DNS TXT and/or SRV records to point to = the metadata needed to construct a mirror URL list dynamically. Maybe so= mething similar can be done for bsdconfig? If it?s not a crazy idea, is = there anyone who would be interested in helping me write a proposal over = at arch@? >> >> 100% behind that idea! Especially since it seems the project has lost >> (some) control over its DNS space, which IMHO, is still an issue, if >> the people whom DNS zones have been deligated to are not responsive >> that should also >=20 > Words of agreement don=E2=80=99t help at the moment, though i appreciat= e your enthusiasm. Would you he able to help write a proposal for the ar= ch@ mailing list? >=20 I think this is the wrong approach, and the better approach is to have=20 the official installer use download.freebsd.org (which already is=20 geo-located). I also feel like this is probably something that core and=20 possibly clusteradm should weigh in on, since it affects how we=20 distribute FreeBSD. My impression was that we were generally trying to move away from=20 mirrors hosted by various people and organizations all over the world,=20 where we have little control, to our own mirrors behind=20 download.freebsd.org. If this is the case, perhaps we should do so in=20 the installer as well. That said, I'm not opposed to the idea of using DNS SRV/TXT records to=20 construct mirror lists, especially if we want to keep on using those=20 mirrors. Regards --=20 Niclas Zeising
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