From nobody Thu Jun 30 16:55:26 2022 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87AF8AB66D for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 16:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: from fuz.su (fuz.su [IPv6:2001:41d0:8:e508::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "fuz.su", Issuer "fuz.su" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LYkwl3d57z3qjs for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 16:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: from fuz.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuz.su (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 25UGtQIK005929 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 16:55:26 GMT (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: (from fuz@localhost) by fuz.su (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 25UGtQnC005928 for ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 18:55:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fuz) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 18:55:26 +0200 From: Robert Clausecker To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New categories: both virtual and non virtual Message-ID: References: <20220630143445.5mqnmr5zbytestcx@aniel.nours.eu> List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20220630143445.5mqnmr5zbytestcx@aniel.nours.eu> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4LYkwl3d57z3qjs X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of fuz@fuz.su designates 2001:41d0:8:e508::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=fuz@fuz.su X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fuz.su]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N While we are at it, may I propose to split some categories off the overly large devel category? Here are some ideas: - src-mgmt for version control programs, diff tools, and similar - debuggers for gdb, lldb, strace, valgrind, ... - analysis for program and binary analysis and static verification tools - codegen for code generators like flex and bison (might conflict with lang) - build for build systems like cmake, mk, autoconf, ... - lib for misc libraries currently under devel - toolchain for binutils, gcc and llvm ports as well as other compilers/linkers that do not fit into lang I am willing to to make a more detailed proposal including a complete list of current ports to sort into each of these if there is general interest. Yours, Robert Clausecker Am Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 04:34:45PM +0200 schrieb Baptiste Daroussin: > Hello everyone, > > with pkg 1.18, it is easier to add new catagories which and reduce the impact > in people as we can query all the categories virtual or not. > > Now that this is done, I would like to add the following new categories. Not > that I want to address the current isssue here which is the desktop world on > FreeBSD is not anymore a x11 only world, and the categories do not reflect > that reality anymore. > > Virtual: > - wayland > > Non Virtual: > - ui-toolkits (all UI toolkits should be moved here) > - desktop (all wayland compositors, all apps desktop oriented which does not > fit in any other catagories). > - desktop-libs (all libraries not ui-toolkit which are necessary for the > desktops) > - fonts (fonts and related libraries) > > > For all the x11 related ports which will be moved there will they will keep > a x11* virtual category to it is still queryable that way if it makes sence > > For example if we move libinput from x11/libinput to desktop/libinput then the > CATEGORIES= x11 will become CATEGORIES= desktop-libs x11 > > meaning: > pkg info desktop-libs/libinput will match the same package as x11/libinput > > Best regards, > Bapt > > -- () ascii ribbon campaign - for an 8-bit clean world /\ - against html email - against proprietary attachments