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Date:      Sun, 15 Mar 2020 13:59:10 -0500
From:      Pedro Giffuni <pfg@FreeBSD.org>
To:        cem@freebsd.org
Cc:        src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, svn-src-head <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r359005 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
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On 14/03/2020 21:38, Conrad Meyer wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 5:49 PM Pedro F. Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> Author: pfg
>> Date: Sun Mar 15 00:49:06 2020
>> New Revision: 359005
>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/359005
>>
>> Log:
>>    calendar(1): Updates and corrections for some calendar files.
>>
>>    These have an educational value and are, no doubt, an integral part of the fun
>>    behind running the BSDs.
> Hmm.  I don't believe calendar(1) has education value (or to the
> extent it has quantifiable value, N <= 0).  Nor does it have more
> subjective "fun" value.  It certainly isn't integral to the system.

Some cultures despise the value of history and things like education and 
maps and degenerate accordingly [1]: this tool helps by hinting 
curiosity. Of course if the database is not populated or people don't 
use calendar(1) it won't be effective at all.

> It's a toy of a certain era that has aged poorly.

Some quite long lasting institutions like the Roman Catholic Church, 
which will likely outlive me and you, use it extensively:

http://www.romcal.net/output/2020.htm

> It belongs with other fun and non-integral components, like
> sopwith(6), in ports.

Ultimately that's one of the reasons why there is interest in a packaged 
base. There are plenty of tools  in base that people don't commonly use; 
we have to find consensus instead of imposing our own limited views.

Pedro.


[1] https://youtu.be/lj3iNxZ8Dww




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