From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Feb 6 10:52:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02339 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 10:52:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (uucp@osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02259 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 10:52:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA10534 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for hackers@FreeBSD.ORG); Fri, 6 Feb 1998 19:52:09 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.7/8.6.12) id SAA01188; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 18:59:26 +0100 (MET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199802061759.SAA01188@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: wd0s1e hard errors In-Reply-To: <34DACF35.8C9CE0C7@challenge.isvara.net> from "freebsd@isvara.net" at "Feb 6, 98 08:52:05 am" To: freebsd@isvara.net Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 18:59:26 +0100 (MET) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe hackers" As freebsd@isvara.net wrote... > Yoah! > > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Should bad144 be retired? > > > > Why, have you come up with a new "media perfection layer" which > > sits in Julian's new slice code under devfs to replace it so you > > can still use WD1007 ESDI controllers, MFM, RLL, and other drives > > that don't support automatic bad sector forwarding? > > IMHO: > There is only *very few* IDE discs used today which don't remap the data > over media defects. All these harddiscs are often quite small - hell, > even my old 40MB Conner and 80MB Quantum harddiscs have defect > management. RLL, ESDI and MFM disks are REALLY old, small and slow. Oh? I've a no-budget Webserver running on a 350 Mb ESDI. Another machine uses a 650Mb ESDI. There have been AFAIK 1Gb ESDI drives. > Of course, you can't put much on small harddiscs anyway, so anyone using Don't think 'anyone' is the same as yourself.... > FreeBSD or any other unix flavour will probably have >170MB (at least) > of IDE storage (or SCSI), therefore they will have automatic defect > management. Not true. _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko @ yedi.iaf.nl http://www.tcja.nl/~wilko |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands - Do, or do not. There is no 'try' --------------- Support your local daemons: run [Free,Net,Open]BSD Unix --