From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 23 14:35:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from slkcpop2.slkc.uswest.net (slkcpop2.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EC6837B43E for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 97894 invoked by alias); 23 Aug 2000 21:34:53 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 97828 invoked by uid 0); 23 Aug 2000 21:34:51 -0000 Received: from ldialup130.slkc.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (207.224.203.130) by slkcpop2.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 23 Aug 2000 21:34:51 -0000 Message-ID: <39A4428C.F281CDAB@uswest.net> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:30:52 -0600 From: Joe Warner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Coleman , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, jreed@internet.com Subject: Re: [dn-editors] I have a story.. References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F58F0D134CADBD63582FA318" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------F58F0D134CADBD63582FA318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe. Thankyou for your submission. However, it is impolite to submit an article to more than one place, without them first declining to publish it. Chris, I wasn't aware that there was some kind of rule or that it would be considered impolite to submit an article to more than one site. I worked hard on this article and spent most of a day, trying to write it. I wrote the article and submitted it to more than one site, hoping to help others and spread the word about a useful application that runs on FreeBSD. It's rules/attitudes like this that make it very discouraging when someone like myself, is just trying to help the rest of the BSD community. In the future, if I come up with some information that I think would help others or I have an idea for another article, I will certainly think hard about sharing it or writing it at all. Thanks for nothing. Joe Chris Coleman wrote: > Joe. Thankyou for your submission. However, it is impolite to submit an > article to more than one place, without them first declining to publish > it. > > Since your article is already published on BSD Tday, we will not be > publishing it. Thankyou for considering us for publication. > > Chris Coleman > Daemon News > http://www.daemonnews.org > Bringing BSD together > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Joe Warner wrote: > > > I didn't have this in HTML, so I thought I'd send it to you in hopes > > that you might consider posting it. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Joe > > > > ---------CUT HERE------------------------------ > > > > Using the Ethereal Network Analyzer > > > > One of the main uses of my FreeBSD box at work has been as a network > > analyzer, using Ethereal from the ports collection. I use it quite > > frequently to troubleshoot, among other things, slow network performance > > on our LAN. This has also been one of the main arguments that I've used > > to justify having a PC, running FreeBSD in a primarily Microsoft/IBM > > shop. Recently, we had some users experiencing big delays when trying > > to install a piece of software on our corporate WAN, while dialed in > > with a 56k connection from home. We had one of the users bring their PC > > in and we put a NIC card in it to install the software from our LAN. > > The install process took less time, since our connection to corporate's > > LAN was at least 512k but it was still a little slow. One of my > > managers requested that I run a trace on this machines IP address during > > the whole install process, so that we could make a better determination > > as to how long and how much data would be transmitted. I ran a > > successful trace and came up with a lot of useful information like: > > Total number of packets, packet length, packet protocol and total time. > > With this information, we were able to draw the conclusion that the > > install while dialed into our LAN from home would take too long and as a > > result, it was decided to put the software on CD and be made available > > to our users for checkout. > > > > Here is a really great article on the use of the Ethereal Network > > Analyzer: > > > > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/08/16/FreeBSD_Basics.html > > > > ....Funny, I got this from a Linux.com Newsletter that I subscribed to, > > back when I was using Linux. > > > > Enjoy > > > > Joe > > > > -- > > > > FreeBSD = The Power to Serve > > ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks! > > > > ---------------CUT HERE----------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > > > FreeBSD = The Power to Serve > > ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks! > > > > > > > > Daemon News, bringing BSD together. > > > > -- FreeBSD = The Power to Serve ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks! --------------F58F0D134CADBD63582FA318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe.  Thankyou for your submission.  However, it is impolite to submit an
article to more than one place, without them first declining to publish
it.

Chris,

   I wasn't aware that there was some kind of rule or that it would be considered impolite to submit an article to more than one site.  I worked hard on this article and spent most of a day, trying to write it.  I wrote the article and submitted it to more than one site, hoping to help others and spread the word about a useful application that runs on FreeBSD.  It's rules/attitudes like this that make it very discouraging when someone like myself, is just trying to help the rest of the BSD community.  In the future, if I come up with some information that I think would help others or I have an idea for another article, I will certainly think hard about sharing it or writing it at all.  Thanks for nothing.

Joe
 

Chris Coleman wrote:

Joe.  Thankyou for your submission.  However, it is impolite to submit an
article to more than one place, without them first declining to publish
it.

Since your article is already published on BSD Tday, we will not be
publishing it.  Thankyou for considering us for publication.

Chris Coleman
Daemon News
http://www.daemonnews.org
Bringing BSD together

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Joe Warner wrote:

> I didn't have this in HTML, so I thought I'd send it to you in hopes
> that you might consider posting it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
> ---------CUT HERE------------------------------
>
> Using the Ethereal Network Analyzer
>
> One of the main uses of my FreeBSD box at work has been as a network
> analyzer, using Ethereal from the ports collection.  I use it quite
> frequently to troubleshoot, among other things, slow network performance
> on our LAN.  This has also been one of the main arguments that I've used
> to justify having a PC, running FreeBSD in a primarily Microsoft/IBM
> shop.  Recently, we had some users experiencing big delays when trying
> to install a piece of software on our corporate WAN, while dialed in
> with a 56k connection from home.  We had one of the users bring their PC
> in and we put a NIC card in it to install the software from our LAN.
> The install process took less time, since our connection to corporate's
> LAN was at least 512k but it was still a little slow.  One of my
> managers requested that I run a trace on this machines IP address during
> the whole install process, so that we could make a better determination
> as to how long and how much data would be transmitted.  I ran a
> successful trace and came up with a lot of useful information like:
> Total number of packets, packet length, packet protocol and total time.
> With this information, we were able to draw the conclusion that the
> install while dialed into our LAN from home would take too long and as a
> result, it was decided to put the software on CD and be made available
> to our users for checkout.
>
>      Here is a really great article on the use of the Ethereal Network
> Analyzer:
>
> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/08/16/FreeBSD_Basics.html
>
> ....Funny, I got this from a Linux.com Newsletter that I subscribed to,
> back when I was using Linux.
>
> Enjoy
>
> Joe
>
> --
>
>     FreeBSD = The Power to Serve
>      ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks!
>
> ---------------CUT HERE-----------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>     FreeBSD = The Power to Serve
>      ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks!
>
>
>
> Daemon News, bringing BSD together.
>
>

--

    FreeBSD = The Power to Serve
     ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks!
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