From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 5 10:43: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF9A37B400 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from directvinternet.com (dsl-65-185-140-165.telocity.com [65.185.140.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E2343E4A for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:43:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from Tolstoy.home.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by directvinternet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85Hh4Gd052819; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:43:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from localhost (nwestfal@localhost) by Tolstoy.home.lan (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g85Hh3oo052815; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:43:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Tolstoy.home.lan: nwestfal owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:43:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" X-X-Sender: nwestfal@Tolstoy.home.lan To: Dave Hayes Cc: Terry Lambert , Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? In-Reply-To: <200209050658.g856wD189878@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> Message-ID: <20020905094901.F41451-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Dave Hayes wrote: > >> > However, given your rejection of authority, who are you to condemn > >> > police brutality? > >> Someone who's lost a friend to it. > > And this is exactly why I find it bizzare that someone who has lived > > through such an experience would continue to believe that in the end, > > it's all pretty meaningless. > > It's called "controlled folly", and I don't believe it or disbelieve > it. I try to keep from belief, and stick to knowledge. I know that > none of this life here on Earth is real. Is a character in, say, > EverQuest real? Does it have meaning? While playing these games with you is quite amusing and you think you are being clever, you couldn't even continue to play them without acknowledging the God who makes it possible to string words together into a sentence that has meaningful content. If you were consistent with what you say you believe, you would quit posting altogether. It is quite amusing watching someone trying to be irrational, but you couldn't even know what it means to be irrational without rationally defining irrationality. Any reply you attempt to make will be an attempt to communicate meaningful content, which presupposes the rational use of language. "Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?" (1 Cor 1:20) Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message