From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Sep 25 00:10:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13608 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:10:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles360.castles.com [208.214.167.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA13550 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:10:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00938; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:15:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809250715.AAA00938@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Terry Lambert cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo), drussell@saturn-tech.com, jflowers@ezo.net, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting from NT ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 06:31:45 -0000." <199809250631.XAA14619@usr01.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:15:06 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Note that the use of the NT boot loader simplifies this, since it can > > > have a very large boot image that it loads from (see the handbook). > > > > i wonder just how large... because if it can contain a full kernel one > > can simply construct a boot made by a small relocator and a regular > > kernel. > > One full cylinder. Ick. Not enough. > > > The real pain here is that FreeBSD won't boot on a pure read-only > > > file store without modification (the existance of which was posted > > > about several times by the ROM/FLASH people). > > > > uh ? booting the kernel obviously works because i have done it reading > > from a CD or the network -- and a readonly root also seems to work, > > because I have been using diskless with a readonly root for a long time. > > Right. Now try to make the /var/run/pid files... You don't need these to boot, or to run in most cases. Procfs largely obsoletes pid files, see eg. 'killall'. You can live without changing permissions on tty/pty device nodes in some (not all) cases too. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message