From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jul 22 09:11:40 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA01258 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 09:11:40 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA01241 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 09:11:38 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id HAA28896 ; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 07:32:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA29561; Sat, 22 Jul 1995 07:27:23 -0700 To: Heikki Suonsivu cc: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support charges ( was Re: SUP target for -STABLE...) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 22 Jul 1995 11:45:34 +0300." <199507220845.LAA02660@shadows.cs.hut.fi> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 07:27:23 -0700 Message-ID: <29559.806423243@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I'm only willing to pay for support if the fixes are passed to everyone. > This also includes NetBSD folks in here, I won't support anything which > takes *BSD* further apart. As I've clarified numerous times - the fixes would be made publically available. I'm not going to try to stuff these fixes down NetBSD's throat, however, and it's going to have to remain their choice as to whether or not they adopt them. Several people now have come out and said things like "I'll only give you this code if you don't keep it out of the hands of NetBSD" or expressed sentiments like the above, and I can only wonder how people are forming the impression that we're of any sort of mind to restrict our work this way. If anyone is to be castigated for hiding their work it's the NetBSD group who seem to have several branches of development, only one of which is made available through -current and open to us - you can frequently see commit messages in their mailing lists for which the code is then not made publically available for a week or more. I'm not jumping up and down asking them to change this practice, mind you (they wouldn't anyway) but simply trying to point out that these accusations (or implications) that we'd hold fixes back where NetBSD is concerned only adds insult to injury! We are a lot more open with our work than they are and will continue to be so. Period. Jordan