Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:54:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: adams@digitalspark.net (Adam Strohl) Cc: doconnor@gsoft.com.au (Daniel O'Connor), darrylo@sr.hp.com (Darryl Okahata), freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Celeron + FreeBSD? Message-ID: <199911050754.XAA52784@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911042124140.1306-100000@nightfall.digitalspark.net> from Adam Strohl at "Nov 4, 1999 09:26:34 pm"
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> > In the real world the 1/2 the cache at 2x the speed makes all of JACK > in performance difference from the "real" PIIs. It rocks. I have to agree with this. And given we are in the business of building SMP servers I have had plenty of first hand experience. I had pretty much ignored the Celeron until the PPGA370 version with slot-1 adapters made it real easy for me to play with a few of them on the cheap in some of the normally P3-450 to P3-600 based servers we turn out, and guess what I found out... it's pretty darn hard to measure much of any difference in any real world applications. Sure synthetic benchmarks can show a difference, but ``make world'' couldn't tell me if I had dual P3-400's or Cereron PPGA-370-400s. I liked it so much my main work box is now slated for a ``on the cheap Dual Celeron upgrade''. Ohhh.. and K7's rock socks!! Our retail computer store front's clone o magic K7/500 128MB with 5400rpm IDE disk drives was only 2 minutes behind an AAI P3-450 512MB 7200rpm SCSI system on make world. Now to go swap the scsi systems around and see who wins :-) > > - ----( Adam Strohl )------------------------------------------------ - > - UNIX Operations/Systems http://www.digitalspark.net - > - adams (at) digitalspark.net xxx.xxx.xxxx xxxxx - > - ----------------------------------------( DigitalSpark.NET )------- - > > On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > > > On 05-Nov-99 Darryl Okahata wrote: > > > These days, I'm not sure dual Celerons make sense. Unless you > > > overclock (which I don't recommend, for all the usual reasons), you're > > > only saving, oh, US$200-$230 compared to a comparable Pentium II-based > > > system. Also, because of the small 128K L2 cache and the 66MHz bus (no > > > overclocking, remember?), dual Celerons aren't as fast as dual P2s. > > > > *Only* US$200-$300? > > > > Sure the cache thing sucks ass, but if you are building a workstation on the > > cheap then they're ideal.. > > > > I personally wouldn't mind saving US$250 :) > > > > --- > > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > > "The nice thing about standards is that there > > are so many of them to choose from." > > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message > -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message
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