From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Oct 12 14:13:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA16399 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:13:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from usr05.primenet.com (tlambert@usr05.primenet.com [206.165.6.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA16394 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:13:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21916; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:13:21 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710122113.OAA21916@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: fnord0: disabled, not probed. To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:13:21 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, hoek@hwcn.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4608.876688101@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Oct 12, 97 01:28:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > One man's useful information is another > man's noise, and now the noise level is at least selectable. I > definitely find the boot-time message *far* easier to read with this > change now! It's like the difference between night and day in > GENERIC, at least. Fie. There is a technological soloution to this problem, and a kludge should not be used. The messages are a warning that a correct fix has yet to be implemented. Removing them removes pressure to fix the thing the correct way, and encourages a climate of kludges. [ Nice word-pair alliteration, eh? ] If you remove all of the disincentives toward mediocrity, then you'll be left with, well, DOS. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.