From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Nov 4 05:18:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA17606 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 05:18:55 -0800 Received: from cls.net (freeside.cls.de [192.129.50.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA17601 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 05:18:52 -0800 Received: by mail.cls.net (Smail3.1.28.1) from allegro.lemis.de (192.109.197.134) with smtp id ; Sat, 4 Nov 95 13:18 GMT From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Reply-To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA19125; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:17:34 +0100 Message-Id: <199511041317.OAA19125@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: More nits To: erich@lodgenet.com (Eric L. Hernes) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:17:33 +0100 (MET) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511011953.NAA26090@jake.lodgenet.com> from "Eric L. Hernes" at Nov 1, 95 01:53:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1600 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Eric L. Hernes writes: > > > > 3. I'd like to see a few more things on the standard installation. > > > Linux "everything" really does install everything; FreeBSD > > > "everything" misses out things which I consider essential, such as > > > bash, less and emacs. > > > > The problem is that all 3 packages you name aren't distributions at > > all, they're packages. If you're saying that I should make up some > > "fake distributions" that do nothing more than try to add packages, I > > guess that's possible. What do the others think? > > That'd be a good idea, sort of a meta-package (I think that I saw > a reference to that a while back too). Well, I don't really care if you call them distributions or packages (note that I didn't use the word distribution. For me, they're all packages), but the idea of meta-packages sounds good, if we're talking about the same thing. I'm thinking of the possibility of either individual products (less, for example, not exactly the biggest program on the CD), or a set of products (like XFree86) which can also be installed individually. To do this right takes a lot of thought. I don't know if anybody has the time right now. My original thought was just to include everything we have when we offer everything. BTW, the sizes on the setup menu don't have much to do with reality. I recall that the "minimal" version was supposed to be about 15 MB, when in fact it's more like 35. At the other end, "everything" is supposed to be 700, when in fact it's only about 250. Could it be that "everything" isn't working as intended? Greg