From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Jun 22 19:26:22 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8117B338ADF; Mon, 22 Jun 2020 19:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49rKCK628rz4FbH; Mon, 22 Jun 2020 19:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id 05MJQJug011868; Mon, 22 Jun 2020 12:26:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id 05MJQJwC011867; Mon, 22 Jun 2020 12:26:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <202006221926.05MJQJwC011867@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: routed && route6d removal proposal In-Reply-To: <960ce7d8-f964-a686-dd79-242145b3ae5c@grosbein.net> To: Eugene Grosbein Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 12:26:19 -0700 (PDT) CC: "Rodney W. Grimes" , "Alexander V. Chernikov" , "current@FreeBSD.org" , net , freebsd-hackers X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49rKCK628rz4FbH X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net has no SPF policy when checking 69.59.192.140) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.73 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.13)[-0.134]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.16)[0.162]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.20)[-0.197]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dnsmgr.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13868, ipnet:69.59.192.0/19, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 19:26:22 -0000 > 22.06.2020 19:49, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > Whats unmaintained about code that has no need to change cause it just pretty much works? > > Have you actually tried running routed(8) as base for real network with loops, > mix of p2p and ethernet-like interfaces, IPv4 aliases, need of offset-lists and > with diameter about 6 hops? As I said I know of people that are running and it is working, and Hiroko's post clearly establishes that as fact in evidence. I am not even sure that RIP* has loop detection in the protocol, as the prefered routing protocol for anything multipath (which is what loops are in effect) is OSPF. > > I'm not talking about RIPv2 inherent deficiencies. > Our routed just glitches where quagga's ripd just works. And your PR# for reporting the bug is? -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org