From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 22 18:35:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050A716A42C; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:35:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E78444E7B; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:22:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6MIWoac047300; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:32:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <42E1398A.3000104@samsco.org> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:23:06 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050615 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilko Bulte References: <200507201959.j6KJxkJl000803@repoman.freebsd.org> <86hdenx5mg.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050721203934.GC1097@anarion> <200507211726.14034.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <1c30f7f77c7adf4e70096cf34ae73e5d@xcllnt.net> <86irz3qgsi.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050722173913.GA20844@freebie.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050722173913.GA20844@freebie.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org, John Baldwin , cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Marcel Moolenaar , "Liam J. Foy" , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Peter Grehan Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/tools/tools/tinderbox/etc current.rc head.rc update_current.rc update_head.rc X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:35:43 -0000 Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 12:25:01PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote.. > >>Marcel Moolenaar writes: >> >>>This change was without warning and without cause. He unilaterally >>>decided that the work and effort put in by others was beneath his >>>attention and concern by making the commit like this. And if des@ is >>>incapable of even the most basic forms of communication that he >>>cannot express his predicament or explain his reasons for this >>>change and ask for input even after the fact, then he shouldn't even >>>be making commits in the first place. >> >>I'm sorry, Marcel, but you are completely off base. >> >>The tinderbox is a service I provide to the FreeBSD developers because >>I (and many others) feel that it is useful. I have spent a lot of >>time and effort developing, maintaining and running it for the past >>three or four years with *zero* assistance from anyone except Mike >>Tancsa (who hosts the current cluster and has gone above & beyond to >>keep it running in the face of hardware failures and my screwups) and >>John De Boskey (who hosted the previous cluster until Real Life made >>it impossible for him to keep up). Most importantly, I have received >>no assistance from the FreeBSD Project, and considerable resistance >>from several of its members. > > > Not knowing any of the details: would it be possible to spread the load > over multiple machines? Say have one box do the tier 1 stuff, box 2 > do the tier 2 or something like that? > > And it is of course reasonable to have this stuff run on the project's > machines, kinda crazy that it takes your $$ etc. > I'd be happy to put a machine into service to help with the load. Scott