From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 19:44: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211D537B627; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:43:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4S2qTA05760; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200105280252.f4S2qTA05760@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , core@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken loader? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 May 2001 17:08:10 PDT." <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:52:29 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Daniel this is not the first time you've screwed the Alpha users with > loader commits/upgrades. Once was forgivable, twice is frankly quite > unforgivable. You have once again _wasted_ a significant amount of your > fellow developer's time. I will note that none of these fellow developers have actually stood up and participated when Daniel has called for help in testing these changes. You persistently ignore things until they blow up, and then whine when they do, claiming that you've been blindsided. This simply isn't appropriate. > I want the backing of Core that NO FICL upgrades or major .4th changes Core has nothing to do with this. If you want the Alpha tested and supported like the other platforms, you need to make sure that the resources are available; whether this means doing it yourself, or helping Daniel get a machine set up, or finding a volunteer to help him out. Please. Less whining, and more thought behind constructive suggestions. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message