From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 20:01:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF71816A4CE for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from vsmtp12.tin.it (vsmtp12.tin.it [212.216.176.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90FA43FE0 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:01:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from victorvittorivonwiktow@interfree.it) Received: from workstation (212.171.174.10) by vsmtp12.tin.it (7.0.019) id 3F8C849200A59FA8 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:01:22 +0100 Message-ID: <006301c3a676$25f06890$0aaeabd4@workstation> From: ".VWV." To: Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:01:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: endless development kills art - Bill and Vulpes X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 04:01:24 -0000 I thank Bill Moran and Vulpes Velox for their replies. It would be difficult for me to work at such distances, even if the hosting isn't a real problem of money. I can simply let you a trace of my experience, hoping it will be a direction to follow: keep the old libraries and frontends, they are still the very best for a desktop distribution. Developers with time to waste are killing creativity. There was a lot of artwork for both GTK 1.x and KDE 2.x. Now it is a desert, artists don't like to remake their work at every developers' whim. GNUstep's Windowmaker has kept itself safe at the moment. The unix desktop has been already killed. GTK 1.x isn't dead yet, even if the developers would like to kill it. The main part of the applications still work on it. KDE 2.x is quite dead, therefore it is necessary to port to 3.x the KDEstep style, to match GNUstep with GTKstep. The NeXT-like dream isn't dead, owing to the strenght of Windowmaker's volunteers. My only hope is the intelligent hierachical organization of the FreeBSD core team. As for desktops, Linux is already dead. Flame me as you like, this is the reality. VITTORI