From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 14:57:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F86616A4F2 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E766643D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:57:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1983D291B02; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:57:13 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27271-07; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:57:18 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D87A291AFC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:57:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 385A85C072; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:57:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373914A1AB; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:57:24 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:57:24 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060801115051.N27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:57:27 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Generating a unique anonymous key is easy, proving why we need it is not. If you want to make accurate #s, you need to make sure that a host doesn't send in multiple reports, which means you need a unique key for each host ... IP doesn't work, since NAT'd networks would all use the same IP ... even non-NAT'd networks would have the risk of being on dynamic IPs, so that again doesn't work ... > (20 + 32) bytes * (10^7) = 495.910645 megabytes. The FreeBSD team would > need a 6.6Mbit/s uplink to handle peak load assuming 50% of the hosts > are set to UTC/GMT time and all trigger within 5 minutes of each > other.... I'm not going to pay for that connection. First question is ... what is 10^7? # of reporting hosts? Where are you getting that # from? Second, that is assuming *all* FreeBSD servers reported ... But, I'll say this right now ... *if* something like this could be implemented to give us accurate #s, I *would* be willing to absorb the bandwidth you are talking about to see it happen ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664