From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 4 16:11:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71256106566C; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 16:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from vps.hungerhost.com (vps.hungerhost.com [216.38.53.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3B78FC08; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 16:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [209.249.190.124] (port=50363 helo=gnnmac.hudson-trading.com) by vps.hungerhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TJo1C-0007o9-Br; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 12:11:22 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.1 \(1498\)) From: George Neville-Neil In-Reply-To: <201210021037.27762.jhb@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 12:11:21 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5BC1F38C-C354-4A01-B809-A8FE64824ABD@neville-neil.com> References: <201210020750.23358.jhb@freebsd.org> <201210021037.27762.jhb@freebsd.org> To: John Baldwin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1498) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.hungerhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - neville-neil.com Cc: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, "Simon J. Gerraty" Subject: Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:11:23 -0000 On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:37 , John Baldwin wrote: > This is very non-obvious to the public at large (e.g. there was no = public=20 > response to one group's inquiry about the second ATF import for = example). =20 > Also, given that you had no idea that sgf@ and obrien@ were working on=20= > importing NetBSD's bmake as a prerequisite for ATF, it seems that = whatever=20 > discussions were held were not very detailed at best. I think it = would be=20 > good to have the various folks working on ATF to at least summarize = the=20 > current state of things and sketch out some sort of plan or roadmap = for future=20 > work in a public forum (such as atf@, though a summary mail would be = quite=20 > appropriate for arch@). I take partial responsibility for the privacy of the discussions = hitherto. My apologies, it should have be moved out onto a public list sooner. But, I would like to drive this to a solution on arch@. We don't have = an atf@, but we do have a test@ and testing@. We have too many mailing lists already, so let's finish this up here if we can and then=20 continue talking on testing@. Best, George