From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 23:05:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B7E1065675 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:05:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from relay0.exonetric.net (relay0.exonetric.net [82.138.248.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FA68FC15 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.24] (unknown [78.86.207.85]) by relay0.exonetric.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0DF5722F; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:05:56 +0000 (GMT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Mark Blackman In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:05:56 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5ACFFFB9-8286-4FE4-A2F3-9845914A130C@exonetric.com> References: <4F16094E.2080108@FreeBSD.org> <92707DFD-08E9-4797-A219-B7AD5B6AD312@exonetric.com> <9A11510C-CEC7-463F-9479-CA6183C7359E@exonetric.com> To: Igor Mozolevsky X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:05:58 -0000 On 18 Jan 2012, at 22:59, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > On 18 January 2012 22:53, Mark Blackman wrote: >>=20 >> On 18 Jan 2012, at 22:50, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: >>=20 >>> On 18 January 2012 22:31, Mark Blackman wrote: >>>=20 >>>> 10.0 - Nov 2013 >>>=20 >>> I think 10.0 should be released based on feature-readiness and not = on >>> some arbitrary date=85 >>=20 >> You can always redefine the feature-set to meet the date. :) >=20 > Yes, but there's a difference between releasing because it's the right > thing to do now vs releasing because it's about time=85 The terse-ness of the e-mail should have told you it wasn't particularly serious. :) However, it was based around 3 minor releases per year, fitting whatever features make sense, FSVO "sense", into each one, giving HEAD a bit=20 over two years to gestate into something you might one day bet the farm=20= on, which isn't a million miles from what happens anyway. - Mark=20