From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 14:51:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E327A16A4BF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aragorn.summit.net.au (aragorn.summit.net.au [203.221.180.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A272543FBF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:51:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lachlan@fatpanda.net) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.summit.net.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 802DC14CE0 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 07:51:09 +1000 (EST) Received: from felix (project.summit.net.au [218.185.87.4]) by aragorn.summit.net.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 2298814CD0 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 07:51:09 +1000 (EST) From: "Lachlan" To: Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 07:51:12 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200309101652.34637.x@Vex.Net> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: is 5.x still too unstable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:51:15 -0000 All of my production servers at work run 4.x I can goto bed at night feeling safe that my servers will not crash during the night for some unforseen reason. I'm with gary 100%. If you want to make a good impression, don't risk 5.x, start with 4. Regards, Lachlan -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Tim Middleton Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:53 AM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: is 5.x still too unstable? I am hoping to move some of the servers in our ISP to FreeBSD. I have been rather hoping 5.2 would be reliable enough, so that we can move to it and enjoy all the -CURRENT goodness. The test server locked up yesterday, during some heavy port building, after running for weeks with no problem. (-; I've not gone to investigate the cause yet. But it has me nervous. It's been difficult to get FreeBSD accepted at all here, so I'm wanting it to make a good impression. I have run 5 at home since 5.0-Release (currently 20030821 snapshot); and while there have been problems now and again with a few builds, once these have been solved my system here has been really very stable, which gave me hope it would be also OK for work... So what is the general opinion of those here? Should i play it safe and go back to 4.x until 5.x becomes officially "stable". Or do people think that for most general purpose stuff 5.x should be generally stable "enough"? "Enough" is a bit of a difficult word to define... of course one wants rock solid for a server... but one may be able to tolerate some sorts of problems as long as they can be sorted out quickly, and things are moving towards ultimate stability in the near future. These aren't huge servers (no multi-processor)... but moderately busy. Running the usual sorts of things... apache, postfix, python, zope, nfs, etc. I realise my post may be a little premature when I haven't even checked out what seems to have taken the test box down yet; but it's been on my mind to solicit opinions here before this happened, so... any thoughts or experiences running 5x on ISP servers to share out there? Are some snapshots known to be better than others? Any tips/tweaks on making 5.x just a little more stable---even at the cost of performance---than a default install (like disabling acpi, as the first thing). -- Tim Middleton | Cain Gang Ltd | A man is rich in proportion to the number of x@veX.net | www.Vex.Net | things which he can afford to let alone. HDT _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"