From owner-freebsd-arch Sat Oct 27 19:43: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1534137B401 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f9S2gsX93100; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:42:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:42:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200110280242.f9S2gsX93100@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: drosih@rpi.edu Subject: Re: time_t not to change size on x86, votes In-Reply-To: References: <200110270636.f9R6aik43419@apollo.backplane.com> <20011027064343.03830380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20011027124149.A486@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article you write: >So much has been said in this thread, and so many suggestions >offered, that I am not sure anyone could reliably say where >people's votes are. Well, I think it's pretty clear where I stand, but your framework is a good one. > 1 = "I will fight against this change with all the keys on > my keyboard", > 3 = "I am basically neutral on the idea", and > 5 = "I am certain that the freebsd project should make this > change". > a) For the up-and-coming 64-bit platforms (sparc64, IA-64), > FreeBSD 5.0-release should have a 64-bit value for time_t. 5 > b) For the up-and-coming 32-bit platforms (PowerPC), > FreeBSD 5.0-release should have a 64-bit value for time_t. 3 > c) For the existing 32-bit platform (i386), > FreeBSD 5.0-release should have a 64-bit value. -Inf > d) For all 32-bit platforms (PowerPC, i386), > iff FreeBSD 5.0-release continues to be a 32-bit value, > then it should be called 'long' instead of 'int'. 2 (I don't feel very strongly, but I am mildly opposed to doing this. I believe, and have stated before, that it would be better to have some platforms be different, precisely to flush out unwarranted assumptions about the type underlying a time_t.) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message