From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 18:57:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CFC106566B for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89B1B8FC13 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26181 invoked by uid 0); 3 Sep 2011 18:57:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2011 18:57:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=iO5MpKy/a0W+XdBz31YpyCDBQ0f4YQNFCRg7B4lWWeQ=; b=UR1Bs7gacsP7Q5/WBanrBQTLpGaIbppUzU5erTthb1wN8Fooz+ODBfVZmVIfbwaJ30TdpXFoJKyE7gdIHgS736hNuLp9mnn6x1Dsw8prY9yXA/kFX/XIWMKqRQZPLKwQ; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QzvPg-0004O8-3M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 12:57:57 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 03 Sep 2011 12:39:19 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:39:19 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110903183919.GA89500@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <4E3C4F7F.7020506@xaerolimit.net> <4E608910.2070900@comcast.net> <20110902130933.4f18836c.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110902130933.4f18836c.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:57:58 -0000 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 01:09:33PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 03:43:12 -0400, Allen wrote: > > > > If the people who work on Gnome are going to go Linux only, than, f > > them. >=20 > Gnome, and maybe also Xfce (for using the same Gtk infrastructures) > will _maybe_ turn into a Linux-centered project, and maybe eventually > become an own distribution. It's kinda the other way around. The XFCE developers have already started developing specifically for Linux. Their concession to the fact that there are other OSes where people like to use XFCE than just Linux distributions is that the parts of XFCE that only work on Linux-based systems can be left out. If you want those parts, too bad. Last I checked, a few weeks ago, the status of GNOME was that some influential GNOME developers were advocating for doing Linux-only development -- but no decisions along those lines had yet been made. If that has changed, I haven't heard about it yet. > > That is nothing bad per se, it just means that using future Gnome on > FreeBSD will be problematic, or maybe even impossible. On theo other > hand, concentrating on _one_ OS platform might give Gnome the boost > that it needs for developing better speed, better integration and > better functionality, but only if the Linux OS environment allows it > to. It seems short-sighted and counterproductive, to me, to say nothing of being a poor choice for development practices in general. There are other things about GNOME that should be fixed long before they take the drastic step of trying to make up for those problems (rather than fixing them) by throwing away stuff that works. It strikes me as a case of poor decision making similar, in principle, to premature optimization. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5idFcACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX+fwCdGoPe0hF8baJ1yNMpHe0jEu4o szMAoKTlfpYzaN8AkwPbVehWc3tZLpd7 =PeE9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0--