From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 12 22:52:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A44CC3B9B0 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 22:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd_atog@comcast.net) Received: from resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Organization Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFD081551 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 22:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd_atog@comcast.net) Received: from resomta-ch2-19v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.115]) by resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id 5h9Mcnu6K2FGM5h9UcSEk5; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 22:52:00 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1478991120; bh=8lnqvdkG1xhpVaLCVkRWUW+yfkG2wsCVTJ/lNYlZZF4=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=OnhUP0fSuZV2bz2S2giqpYSRLzvAsKIBmj2RYlTAc7d42sfMaKnS2kQ6C/v0QnAuZ pwpP+rOqWMcwR1Kdg9trVa1YodGpG+mo0KHubOIkQAqWU67qjVfNUUlQt/yZKIv+gm ooYGGJ8wPCq9RbwSkvRUoiLdJa2dIlAG/r9LLKlYhbhXcjwg+Pss4B9F8gF2vr0HbB WUK/o5iAavEN75h2d4j+3/jW6QJA3iih2s6xHg3LiPTY5zv5sPLuwzGUnITWYerTTc 11+ctYXUzd5EHLcnkt7XcXoi3h/ctwCqEH3SRSVlToosT1ET5om2u26yAPvL5DFPxc yL5bT8dXPsiEw== Received: from KoggyBSD.org ([68.60.93.182]) by resomta-ch2-19v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id 5h9Sc0JuzcP8w5h9UcVPYy; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 22:52:00 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2016 18:54:27 -0500 From: Allen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LAME Package Question Message-ID: <20161112185427.0e575595@KoggyBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <44cbd684-9df1-9756-05a6-d8a2264f438f@FreeBSD.org> References: <20161028213914.0876d1cf@KoggyBSD.org> <20161029053035.7801824a.freebsd@edvax.de> <44cbd684-9df1-9756-05a6-d8a2264f438f@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfB6hSfAUBQWcLL8luIUvKMmObohx2SXZBmCXd0UuECVmGBuPsJhpMegD6eDOx1cJIcXPbknUbw8ZktCuTCRG7VbeXbo3XQCVcG2UvCbqQxZnz86KgtcT loVWVdNuLB/SaJHIrnbGrADr0ioUmmuVIGZV2/83aJAM7hKFSxtzZCWG6sWV8Ic2Olna68yF7hGqOg== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2016 22:52:03 -0000 Hi, Thanks everyone who took the time to respond to me, and I appreciate it :) Also, there were some replies off list I got that also helped out, and thank you to those who also took the time to discuss this with me :) I had my suspicions about the whole not "exacty" free thing being the main issue, and I'm going to just go to the FreeBSD Web site, and start looking through the ports collection so I can first deduce which way I want to go about getting my Tree Updated. I haven't used normal Ports in a very VERY long time to say the least heh, but I'm OK with that, as I've done it before, I just wanted to know if there was something I'd missed with the PKG Tool, which I LOVE DEARLY. Seriously, I'm not sure exactly who it was who wrote PKG, or designed it, or got it working so beautifully, and so nice, but THANK YOU whoever you are! As I'd said in other posts here; I started using FreeBSD back when I bought the FreeBSD PowerPak which came with FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE, and I've been in Love ever since. I just didn't really like doing the whole Source Code based Installations, as I'd kind of gotten a little but lazy using Linux as well, and so I kind of got into using Tools and Packages instead of Source Code to install things, and the only time I really installed stuff from Source Code, was on my Slackware Box, and I wanted Irssi, my favorite IRC Client, and even then, I emailed Patrick one day, and asked very nicely if he could add Irssi to the next release of Slackware, and like 2 or 3 days later, I got a reply from him with a link to the "Slackware-CURRENT" list of Packages, and there it was; My Irssi :) I actually like Patrick quite a bit; He's a good guy, and not just anyone goes and ports a piece of Software for an OS just like that, so obviously it stuck with me. I remember trying to help him track down a Doctor back when he had his health scare, and me giving his Cell number out to my Mom who worked at a Hospital here in Michigan, and me finding a Doctor that was willing to help him, and then finding out two days later he'd already started treatment and was doing much better. Anyway, I really LOVE PKG, and I'd searched for other tools on FreeBSD to do that, and even investigated Pkgsrc from NetBSD, and installed it on my Slackware box to try out, but when I got the first FreeBSD version that had PKG on it, I found exactly what I had been searching for, and LOVED it. But anyway I don't want to make anyone read my life story, but I do want to make sure it's clear that I very much appreciate the time you all took to try and help every step of the way, and of course kiss some ass to whoever made the decision for PKG ;) lol. I'm going to check out some tools so I can see what I'm going to use to update my Ports Collection, and then, simply use the Port :) Thanks again everyone!! -Allen