From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Aug 15 08:41:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA17136 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17124 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 08:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harlie (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.2]) by horst.bfd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20942; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 08:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 08:41:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" X-Sender: ejs@harlie To: Hellmuth Michaelis cc: "Daniel O'Callaghan" , hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ipfw vs ipfilter? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Didn't all real hackers start out by programming TRS-80's and Apple IIe's > > back in '78/'79? > > No, some started by soldering together 6800/6821/6850/2708/2114 chips because > they did'n like 6502's and 8080's :-) Then I probably wasn't the only one so thouroughly put off by the 8086 that I started working on my own bitslice design? :-) (For those that are wondering, the Z8000 and the 68000 came out before I even came close to finishing the design, and those I was almost happy with.)