From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 15 17:53:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4D3D81; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@allanjude.com) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (beauharnois2.bhs1.scaleengine.net [142.4.218.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819C72AEB; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.1.1] (S01060001abad1dea.hm.shawcable.net [50.70.108.129]) (Authenticated sender: allan.jude@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3F6C3CDD6; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <525D8116.6090808@allanjude.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:53:26 -0400 From: Allan Jude User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Devin Teske Subject: Re: svn commit: r256343 - in head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall: . scripts References: <201310112041.r9BKfZeT002056@svn.freebsd.org> <20131015145032.GD98118@admin.xzibition.com> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC6A04C@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> <525D5E07.1070900@allanjude.com> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC6A61F@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> <525D6E24.70901@allanjude.com> <525D70AE.1020103@FreeBSD.org> <525D7385.1050509@allanjude.com> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC6A9D1@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC6A9D1@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "src-committers@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "Teske, Devin" , Andriy Gapon , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , Bryan Drewery X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:53:02 -0000 On 2013-10-15 13:26, Teske, Devin wrote: > On Oct 15, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Allan Jude wrote: > >> On 2013-10-15 12:43, Andriy Gapon wrote: >>> on 15/10/2013 19:32 Allan Jude said the following: >>>> Lets change ZFSBOOT_BEROOT_NAME to 'ROOT' and remove the /usr/local and >>>> /var/db/pkg datasets entirely (so they become part of the BE). Based on >>>> IRC discussion with bdrewery and Shawn Webb >>> I want to note that a good implementation of BEs should support a dependent >>> datasets feature. Unfortunately, it seems that we do not have any good BE >>> implementation for FreeBSD right now. If we had, personally I'd prefer to have >>> /usr/local in separate filesystem. >>> >> Indeed, on my laptop /usr/local is separate, and I just have compat9x >> installed so my 10 kernel can run the pkgs from my 9.2 kernel >> > So I'm hearing... > > 1. ZFSBOOT_BEROOT_NAME to 'ROOT' > 2. Keep /usr/local dataset > 3. Kill /var/db/pkg dtatset > > Yeah? kill both, until beadm learns to treat a separate /usr/local in the proper way. Nothing is installed to /usr/local by default, so a user can also add their own /usr/local dataset before they install ports/packages if they want to manage it themselves -- Allan Jude