Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 14:22:15 -0800 From: "Peter/Los Angeles, CA" <peter@haloflightleader.net> To: "Sam Drinkard" <sam@wa4phy.net>, "Allen Landsidel" <all@biosys.net> Cc: <sthaug@nethelp.no>, <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing Message-ID: <011601c18e5b$cb3b16e0$245b1486@hhlaw.com> References: <Your message of "Wed, 26 Dec 2001 13:02:11 -0500"> <5.1.0.14.0.20011226125628.00b08e10@rfnj.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20011226141409.00b02048@rfnj.org> <3C2A45F9.EBF0C148@vortex.wa4phy.net>
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it kind of strange that auto-sensing/auto-negotiating must be enabled on both sides for the feature to work a bit strange? At home, I have a Netgear FS116, a 16-Port unmanaged switch. It is auto-sensing/full-duplex 10/100Mbits/sec switch. Therefore, we cannot control how it will behave. On the other hand, I have network cards on my computer which I can set to full/half/auto/10/100, whatever combination I like, and yet, the switch will continue to work. What I'm getting at is that just because one end is not set to auto-negotiate/auto-sense that there will be no communication at all. Say, that one end is set manually, and the other end is automatic. The automatic end will set itself to the parameters of the one that is manually set. This is how my network works. Thus, I don't believe that both ends, need to be set the same way in order to work in this scenario. The automatic will automatically negotiate/auto-sense to whatever can't be changed, as a result, they work. Or is this even what you folks are arguing about? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Drinkard" <sam@wa4phy.net> To: "Allen Landsidel" <all@biosys.net> Cc: <sthaug@nethelp.no>; <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing > Well, having followed this thread for some bit, I gotta throw my $.02 > worth in.. I'm one of those who has machines connected via a "dumb" > 10baseT hub, and auto everything doesn't work. I think the whole point > is that a certain amount of knowledge is required *before* one should > attempt to build a network. Both the 4.5-Pre machine as well as the > RH-7 box have identical nic's in them, but alas, *neither one* knows > about the other one. Only a manual configuration of the one in the 4.5 > machine is configurable. RH 7, with same card is not. It's MY dilemma, > and despite all the chit-chat, what do you do when you *can't* configure > a card manually, and it won't auto-negotiate? > > Sam > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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