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Date:      Mon, 20 Feb 2012 07:23:52 -0800
From:      Patrick Powell <papowell@astart.com>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 8 to 9: Kernel modularization -- did it change?
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On 02/17/12 17:14, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 02/17/2012 15:11, matt wrote:
>> We have a modular kernel. It makes best-practices-sense to keep the
>> kernel true to what's required to boot and initialize the hardware
>> required to come up multiuser. I am actually against having sound in
>> there at all.
> I think the question is not, "What should be in the kernel?" but rather
> "What should be on by default?" *How* those things are provided is a
> different question.
>
> One could argue that an intelligent installer combined with a more
> modular kernel would be the right answer.
>
>> However, as a compromise, if it must be in there, then put it in
>> loader.conf and not the kernel.
> I keep hoping that if I repeat this enough times that people will get
> the word. :)  Because loading modules through loader.conf is
> veeeeeerrrrryyyyyy sssssllllloooooowwwwww I added an rc.d script called
> kld that will load the specified modules after disks are mounted. This
> is at least an order of magnitude faster. Look for kld_list in
> rc.conf(5) if you want the details, but the short version is that you
> just do something like, kld_list="umass coretemp ichwd linux nvidia".
> This is in all the -stable branches (including 7), is already in 9.0,
> and will be in 8.3.
>
> Obviously you have to have everything in kernel and/or loader.conf
> that's necessary to get your local disks available, and the system to
> the point where it can start running rc. But everything else can go in
> kld_list.
>
>
> hth,
>
> Doug
>
Oooh!  Ahhh!  Just what I was looking for.  l will extract this from 9 
and put it on my system.
Much better than having to edit the loader.conf and/or having to create 
a rc.local script.

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