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Date:      Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:34:42 +0200
From:      Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>
To:        Rob Farmer <rfarmer@predatorlabs.net>
Cc:        David DEMELIER <demelier.david@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Ports <ports@freebsd.org>, Wesley Shields <wxs@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: editors/vim installs to /
Message-ID:  <20100920083442.GA77193@e.0x20.net>
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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 05:38:21PM -0700, Rob Farmer wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 16:24, Wesley Shields <wxs@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 03:51:42PM -0700, Rob Farmer wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 13:54, Wesley Shields <wxs@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >> > While I agree that editors/vim could use the changes you're discussi=
ng,
> >> > do you really think such a comment is needed? Attacks like that are =
not
> >> > necessary. Let your code speak for itself.
> >> >
> >> > -- WXS
> >>
> >> This port has major issues and numerous polite requests (including
> >> with patches) to fix them have been summarily ignored or rejected. So
> >> don't act surprised when people start to get annoyed by the situation.
> >
> > I'm not surprised. I'm pointing out that attacks like that are not going
> > to further the cause of getting the port the care you think it deserves.
> >
> > Unfortunately I don't know what the answer is beyond polite requests and
> > patches to fix the problems as you see them. I do know that attacks are
> > not the answer and are in fact harmful to achieving a goal.
> >
> > -- WXS
> >
>=20
> Fair enough. My apologies if my comments on this were too aggressive.
>=20
> However, I still think it would benefit everyone if the maintainer
> could provide an explanation for some of the current behavior and
> would at least be open to discussion about changing it. The biggest
> problem here, IMHO, is not the OPTIONS issue, but rather the use of
> GTK 1 as the default. Plenty of ports don't support OPTIONS, even
> though they could, and many users ignore options by setting BATCH, but
> it isn't a big deal because the defaults are ideal for most
> situations. I think either defaulting to GTK 2 or just making vim a
> console application would eliminate most of these complaints.

editors/vim-lite is console only.

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