From owner-freebsd-gecko@freebsd.org Sun Mar 29 20:48:21 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gecko@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED825262BB1 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+t@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48r73414Wvz4g6q for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+t@aldan.algebra.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 4614D262BA1; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: gecko@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40681262BA0 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+t@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from symbion.zaytman.com (symbion.zaytman.com [64.112.176.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "symbion", Issuer "Narawntapu" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48r72k6gBNz4g2c; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:47:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+t@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from narawntapu.narawntapu (pool-100-1-228-105.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net [100.1.228.105]) by symbion.zaytman.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 02TKlmuU069105 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 29 Mar 2020 16:47:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+t@aldan.algebra.com) X-Authentication-Warning: symbion.zaytman.com: Host pool-100-1-228-105.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net [100.1.228.105] claimed to be narawntapu.narawntapu Received: from aldan.narawntapu (aldan [192.168.3.13]) by narawntapu.narawntapu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 02TKlkgu094000; Sun, 29 Mar 2020 16:47:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+t@aldan.algebra.com) X-Authentication-Warning: narawntapu.narawntapu: Host aldan [192.168.3.13] claimed to be aldan.narawntapu Subject: Re: Restoring seamonkey To: Jan Beich Cc: gecko@freebsd.org References: <857ef528-1dfd-12b6-6579-b03a137ff199@aldan.algebra.com> <9a797087-e769-3c50-3032-c71b41fab823@aldan.algebra.com> <4ku8-x9zl-wny@FreeBSD.org> From: "Mikhail T." Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 16:47:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-DCC-MGTINTERNET-Metrics: narawntapu 1170; bulk rep Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 rep=67% X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=23.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HTML_MESSAGE,RATWR8_MESSID,TW_BX,TW_IB autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on narawntapu.narawntapu X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48r72k6gBNz4g2c X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mi@aldan.algebra.com has no SPF policy when checking 64.112.176.10) smtp.mailfrom=mi@aldan.algebra.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.24)[-0.244,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[algebra.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.04)[0.038,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:394548, ipnet:64.112.176.0/24, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[t]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[105.228.1.100.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-gecko@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gecko Rendering Engine issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:48:22 -0000 On 29.03.20 15:13, Jan Beich wrote: > "Mikhail T." writes: > >> 4. I then wrote you an e-mail inquiring, if the port can be restored... > Did you try to build 2.53.1 before writing the email? No, of course not -- not anticipating such reaction, I thought, I'd ask first... > >> Do the 2. and the 3. not qualify as "homework"? What more should I >> have done before approaching you for comment? > Work with upstream to fix FreeBSD-specific regressions e.g., > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1437670 And this work would've made you less angry at me asking about Seamonkey? > >>> Patches do the talking better. >> So, you're angry at me for not doing the work, which you're trying to >> dissuade me from doing in the first place? > If you don't use bsd.gecko.mk then the revived www/seamonkey wouldn't > complicate maintenance of www/firefox + mail/thunderbird. Your response does not seem to address the question posed... > I'm not a security researcher and don't have access to restricted bugs. > Here're a few candidates from a cursory look: > Oh, wow, that's pretty bad, Ok... Does not the collection, however, argue in support of having fewer libxuls in the tree -- ideally, just one, but, maybe, two? So that there are fewer ports to patch for each CVE affecting all of them? My understanding of Mozilla is, Firefox really is there flagship project, with most developers working on -- and targeting Windows. Everybody else -- Thunderbird and the browser-forks -- are poor relatives, which just lack the resources to keep up with changes to the (formerly) shared parts of the tree. That is, FreeBSD will not be /diverging /from the upstream by patching them to work with the Firefox' pieces, our patches will be helping them catch up... I'll try it here -- maybe, it is not that difficult, actually... Yours, -mi